bugera nuke btx3600

cglen · #1 02-03-2011, 11:12 AM

I'm new here, and and I'm looking around and there is a lot of slamming and mixed opinions. I've had mine for a year and not 1 thing has gone wrong with it! it was a giant leap from the gk backline 600, it put some thump in my junk. Currently running 4x10 kustom groove bass, and a house p.a. sonic 1x18. Gnarly. The only problem I have with it is rattling beers off tables at bars. If you have any douts, dont . Go for it and get the warrenty. That's what I did and never been happier......ps, not running and fx or processors, all head.=)

silky smoove · #2 02-03-2011, 01:35 PM

Most people will slag the amp because it's a Behringer. Bugera is a Behringer company in case you didn't already know. Behringer has a shady track record and set of business practices that make people not like them, myself included.

On top of that, I seem to recall that the power output specs for this amp were unachievable and deemed to be completely false. I don't remember the details of that, but hopefully someone will chime in with links or an explanation.

okcrum · #3 02-03-2011, 02:18 PM

To get 3600W out you'd need a 240 volt 30 amp AC power feed. You'd need roughly 7200W in from the power line for a 3600W Class AB1 amp. The specs are rubbish.

Bugera BTX 36000

s_mcsleazy · #4 02-03-2011, 02:22 PM

so how much power does it actually give?

3506string · #5 02-03-2011, 02:35 PM

I'll bet the nuke uses the power section derived from the EP2500 which is a pretty stout amplifier and puts out pretty close to its claimed wattage. So if you want the real world numbers check out this, that is if it really uses the EP2500 for the power section, which I'm not sure of. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=855865

jeff7bass · #6 02-03-2011, 03:22 PM

Even if the specs are PEAK, which they likely are, the Nuke is pushing a good 900w RMS as compared to the GK’s 300w.
Yeah the old “business practice” argument. Hard to make heads or tails of that because let’s face it, Americans are buying Chinese products out of necessity these days.
Many Americans simply pick items based on price and can’t afford to be choosy. I picked a Behringer B4500H head for sole use as a backup because it was 200 bucks brand new.
It powers my two cabs nicely and has decent features. My main head is a Carvin BX1200, which is American but likely has parts in it from China. Oh well.

s_mcsleazy · #7 02-03-2011, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jeff7bass

Even if the specs are PEAK, which they likely are, the Nuke is pushing a good 900w RMS as compared to the GK’s 300w.
Yeah the old “business practice” argument. Hard to make heads or tails of that because let’s face it, Americans are buying Chinese products out of necessity these days.
Many Americans simply pick items based on price and can’t afford to be choosy. I picked a Behringer B4500H head for sole use as a backup because it was 200 bucks brand new.
It powers my two cabs nicely and has decent features. My main head is a Carvin BX1200, which is American but likely has parts in it from China. Oh well.

well theres 2 sides of the coin atm

one is esencially buying the amp equivelent of a kia and the other is buying a used car.

most people i know have been forced to sell gear for well cheep. hence why i now have too much. however i dont feel the need to buy a kia amp. ill stick by my old ford bassman

jeff7bass · #8 02-03-2011, 03:38 PM

Yeah but the Kia you buy might be built in the USA while the Ford is built in Mexico!
Still Ford is doing a great job so yeah, I’m getting the Ford. ; )
Chevy? Another story there…
Back to amps, many amps from American companies are built in China or Korea so it’s a cloudy issue.

okcrum · #9 02-03-2011, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jeff7bass

Even if the specs are PEAK, which they likely are, the Nuke is pushing a good 900w RMS as compared to the GK’s 300w.

It looks like the limiting factor is the cooling. With a high flow cooling tunnel for the output transistor heatsinks and a pretty good fan at each end, you might be able to dissipate 500-600 average watts, but I doubt this amp would do 900 for any length of time without going into thermal shutdown. That's no dig on Behringer; it's a characteristic of almost all amps of this particular design.

christw · #10 02-03-2011, 03:47 PM

Tangent: Do you guys ragging on Kia realize how many "imports" are domestically made? Look into Honda for example. I was building 2009 Accords, Acura TL, and Acura RDX at Marysville Auto Plant. Many Chevy Cobalts are all made in Mexico if I recall. They had a 5 man QC team at their worst in 2008 when GM was hurting. 5 men for a whole assembly line of cars! We had hundreds. Kind of throws off the whole analogy.

Anyways, there are no ratings given by manufacturer or vender on this amp. I'd assume 3600W peak output under ideal conditions. No RMS ratings are given because it's a sham. All marketing crap. Like the magic cure medicines of the late 19th and early 20th century-it probably doesn't do what it's supposed to (hyped about) and might kill you in the process.

cglen · #11 02-03-2011, 05:12 PM

http://www.bugera-amps.com/EN/products/BTX36000.aspx. personal flavors for different stokes, any body heard about the kona 5 string select? Beefy no name. I did some research and the make a lot of cheap stuff but there 1 thing the make well and they make a beautiful HEAVY creation. Hahahahahahahaha the extra punch of the nuke make that beast growl! http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d.html/r...0?a=B001QSIAJ8

HookerRoad · #12 07-12-2011, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by okcrum

To get 3600W out you'd need a 240 volt 30 amp AC power feed. You'd need roughly 7200W in from the power line for a 3600W Class AB1 amp. The specs are rubbish.

Bugera BTX 36000 - TalkBass Forums

The specs are to entice those asking stupid questions like, "What is the loudest amp out there?" I bought the Nuke to replace a GK 800RB while it was in the shop cause it was affordable and I needed something with balls. Well the GK is out of the shop and it lives on the shelf for now. The Nuke is surely not 3600 watts, but it is surely way more than the 400 watts the GK puts out. What I like most about it is the tone... Clean as a bell... My bass finally sings. It's not quite as "punchy as the GK but I can't get near the tone from the GK... While all you Behringer haters are out there bad mouthing their stuff... I keep getting people coming up to me from the audience asking me about my gear. They recognize the SWR cabs... but the head intrigues them. A few musicians from the audience after hearing my sound have had second thoughts about Bugera and are considering taking a chance on the gear themselves, especially since it won't break their bank.