Buyers beware!!!! - Page 11

drpepper · #**201** 09-19-2012, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Peepaleep

And after things like this happen a few times small builders who make quality products at low prices decide that the headaches of dealing with the public are not worth the return. Ask Dan Atkinson.

I don't think those are particularly comparable situations.

troy mcclure · #**202** 09-19-2012, 02:58 PM

I think the op took a risk but circumventing the paypal fees. I think the seller couldn't refund the fees as he didn't have it, he was cab heavy cash poor. I think if the op wanted a refund he should have gotten one, however I would have taken the $1100 cab and bought a cab at GC to use for a week and return...(that is just me).

1n3 · #**203** 09-19-2012, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by drpepper

All well and good, but it's pretty lame of him to use the Paypal personal transaction. Dealing with transaction fees is part of doing business.

For most people wanting and buying a Schroeder cabinet, nothing in this scenario would have been unacceptable. Damage wasn't a reason to no longer want a Schroeder cabinet.

Strictly speaking, the OP didn't primarily want a Schroeder cabinet, he wanted a cabinet "right now."

I'm in general agreement. Normally, someone who's shipping 50-60 cabs a month would have a merchant account (take credit cards). However, I have no problem with a business that decides not to accept any electronic payments. It's their prerogative to forgo some sales in order to reduce or eliminate third-party costs.

But evidently, this seller wanted the benefits of electronic payment without the costs, which include fees and buyer protections. I do have a problem with that.

Majority opinion here seems to be "cheating PayPal is ok; as long as he doesn't cheat me, he's still a good guy".

Nigel Rahmshard · #**204** 11-28-2012, 06:34 PM

Just say the name of the dealer for f&$# sake. If you were talking to a buddy you would tell them so you may as well say it here. Im sure if they were wonderful you wouldnt omit the name of the business. Perhaps them seeing folks talking about them might drive them to change the way they word things on their website or perhaps change their business practices or customer service.

Pilgrim · #**205** 11-28-2012, 06:48 PM

I don't think the OP has a problem, I think he created one.

He ordered a cab, he will end up with exactly that cab in new condition.

Refunds are optional, not mandatory.

IMO he has no room to gripe.

willsellout · #**206** 11-28-2012, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pilgrim

I don't think the OP has a problem, I think he created one.

He ordered a cab, he will end up with exactly that cab in new condition.

Refunds are optional, not mandatory.

IMO he has no room to gripe.

Wow, no kidding.

**mjac28** · #**207** 11-28-2012, 08:10 PM

Hi mom

grendle · #**208** 11-28-2012, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Pilgrim

I don't think the OP has a problem, I think he created one.

He ordered a cab, he will end up with exactly that cab in new condition.

Refunds are optional, not mandatory.

IMO he has no room to gripe.

+1

And he got upgraded. If that cab was unplayable I would hate to see what he thinks of regularly gigged gear lol. Never heard a rattle you could hear at stage volume. Handled well by the mfr. Imo.

Josh Pelican · #**209** 11-28-2012, 08:24 PM

There is a clue as to who the builder is in the original post (in the e-mails). The author made a little booboo and forgot to blank something out!

Crockettnj · #**210** 11-28-2012, 08:25 PM

.029*650*55*12=potentially $12,000+

Vendor/builder has a cute scam working there. IMO ught to use some of it to invest in better cab lining AND better packaging, as both are deplorable.

And OP, you effed up.

Both sides are wrong several times here. IMO neither had altruistic intentions.

steelbed45 · #**211** 11-28-2012, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by B-string

I feel no different towards the builder or poster. It says to me only DO NOT work around protections given or available by a transfer service or instrument. Seller should not have asked, buyer should not have agreed. Now we see the sad result. Anything else is just arm chair quarterbacking. IMHO

+1, that's what I got out of it.

steelbed45 · #**212** 11-28-2012, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh Pelican

There is a clue as to who the builder is in the original post (in the e-mails). The author made a little booboo and forgot to blank something out!

Ahh, gotcha.

Peepaleep · #**213** 11-28-2012, 08:44 PM

Can we close this thread? I can't imagine anything new coming out of it.

wabbit · #**214** 11-28-2012, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Peepaleep

Can we close this thread? I can't imagine anything new coming out of it.

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Originally Posted by mjac28

Hi mom

This guy got to say hi to his mom. That's a pretty cool thing IMHO.

Hi mom!

Nev375 · #**215** 11-28-2012, 09:06 PM

Why doesn't someone just say the name of the builder?

Is this a drama or is this a mystery?

Phil Smith · #**216** 11-28-2012, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Nev375

Why doesn't someone just say the name of the builder?

Is this a drama or is this a mystery?

The name of the builder is in the discussion you have to read it.

Oh, who's got a fork?

Nev375 · #**217** 11-28-2012, 09:28 PM

I'm afraid this is all going to end like the last season of "Lost".

Is the cab builder the smoke monster and the OP the polar bear? I reread the emails, but I cant figure out which episode I missed that explains everything.

Bassmann1968 · #**218** 11-28-2012, 09:32 PM

**mjac28** · #**219** 11-28-2012, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by wabbit

This guy got to say hi to his mom. That's a pretty cool thing IMHO.

Hi mom!

Thank you sir

Revolver · #**220** 11-28-2012, 09:57 PM

Sellers Beware!!!! . . . of unyielding, i'll-break-down-into-a-hissy-fit-if-I -don't-get-what-I-want-immediately customers . . .