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View Poll Results: *** Which cabinet would you add to complete an existing 210 setup *** | |
another ....NEO 210
|   | 26 | 68.42% | |
NEO 112
|   | 0 | 0% | |
NEO 212
|   | 5 | 13.16% | |
NEO 115
|   | 8 | 21.05% | |
-OR- mums old kitchen cabinet, ( no handles AND non NEO ) ...
|   | 0 | 0% |  | 
12-28-2011, 07:16 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: From Cuba to Crete, IL | | | CABINET ADDITION
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Hey all,
Just purchased a micro bass head to run my GK 210 NEO.
I wish to add another light weight cabinet to complete my rig because my body isn't what it used to be !
So I was wondering which configuration the majority of you guys
and gals out here would go with...
Either: another 210 212 or 115.... all NEO of course....
Thanks in advance !
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12-28-2011, 07:19 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: San Luis Obispo, CA | | | I will spare the typing fingers of many. Don't mix and match drivers of different sizes because you get "phasing issues." If you don't have an idea of what that is you really should do a search...there are some people who have explained it in great detail out there. BUT. Some people do it anyways and like the sound, however, if you can't play the cab with your 210 before buying...it's really a gamble. The only way you can be sure you're going to get a solid increase in boom n' bang is to add another 210.
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12-28-2011, 07:23 AM
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get a matching GK 210 neo | 
12-28-2011, 07:37 AM
|  | Bass Inflicted, and lovin' it! | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Austin, TX | | | People talk about phase issues all the time. I am starting to believe them! That would describe why I have heard so many bands with mixed and matched PA's sound terrible even though they had enough speakers running to kill a heard of Buffalo! I had initially voted for the 212 without really reading much, but now I would say the 210. Can I change my vote?
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12-28-2011, 07:49 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Jakarta, Indonesia | | | +1 on another 210 cab. Stack them vertically and be (subjectively) louder than a regular 410!
Lets see, if you absolutely want another mis-matched cab for whatever reason(s):
410 cab is heavy. A 210+410 can be a nice 610 but you'd need a 4-ohm 410 cab and 2.66-ohm capable amp.
212 cab is too loud compared to the 210 (like matching a 410 to a 115, not good idea).
115 cab is on par volume-wise with the 210.
112 cab is a lil' quieter than the 210.
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12-28-2011, 07:56 AM
|  | Registered User My arse let's go. They're filming midgets. | | Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: 相模原,Japan | | | for my needs a 2x10 + 1x15 works. full rig is nice for when I need it. when I have eub gigs i use the 2x10's on their side and for small electric gigs I grab the 1x15. FWIW i am migrating to the (2) 1x12 cabs at work and getting pretty nice results. | 
12-28-2011, 07:58 AM
|  | Registered User Builder: Bottom Line Bass Cabinets | | Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Indiana | | | I am convinced that 12's are the way to go. But, having a 210 neo already, I voted to add another matching cab to your rig. I have tried mixing different size speakers in the past, and it didn't work out well for me.
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12-28-2011, 08:11 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Cayce, SC | | | Physics is physics. A mixed set may sound good, but a matched set will sound better. Maybe there are some rare exceptions, I dunno.
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12-28-2011, 08:34 AM
|  | Registered User My arse let's go. They're filming midgets. | | Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: 相模原,Japan | | | oh you guys with the golden ears! | 
12-28-2011, 09:15 AM
|  | Bass Inflicted, and lovin' it! | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Austin, TX | | | I think the idea of mixed cabinets comes from thinking one,would cover a sonic range that is not covered by the other as well, be it something in the low miss, highs, whatever. Problem I see is that something different might actually clash with what the other cab has going for it. Heck, I had a single 15" cab that got phase cancellation in a particular spot on a stage. I moved it over two feet and forward about a foot and it was great. Phase cancellation is a weird beast!
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12-28-2011, 09:45 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Norhtifeld, Ohio | | | Use matching cabs. I didn't believe it till I started to get feedback from some of the people on this site and they are right. I was running a Neo 410 with a Neo 112 on top and it was loud, but didn't sound good. What drives me crazy is that all of these companies producing these cabs advertise them to be mixed and yet the majority of bass players don't do that. Same thing goes for the way you stack them or placement on the stage. I tried putting one on each side of the drummer. Didn't work. Do what sounds good to you, but the majority will tell you to match them. Good luck. | 
12-28-2011, 10:24 AM
|  | Registered User My arse let's go. They're filming midgets. | | Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: 相模原,Japan | | | you know, when I think about things, I only use one cab or the other. Here I thought it was my old age and back giving out, but really it was my ears telling me something. Nah, it's the back. grumble grumble grumble. fortunately, I have sound reenforcement and my amp is only a monitor. | 
12-28-2011, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by RedLeg oh you guys with the golden ears! | Who, me? Naw, couldn't be. I just had a hearing test and I'm basically legally deaf. I can still play because the volume is turned up. Acoustic guitar? Forget it.
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12-28-2011, 11:59 AM
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Thanks guys for all the input so far... it's been really helpful !
Ironically, I sent an email to GK a bit ago, and Brian @ GK product services sent a reply saying that there wouldn't be any type of "phase" issue if I were to go with a different size speaker cabinet and also added that "his personal favorite" was the 210 / 212 setup... hmmmmm
Could it be that GK works best with just GK regardless of cabinet configuration?
comments.... opinions....
Thanks again guys !
email conversation:
Brian Clark brian@gallien.com
12:21 PM (44 minutes ago)
"This will not cause any phasing issues. Personally, one of my favorite combinations is a 210 with a 212."
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12-28-2011, 12:12 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Toronto Ontario Canada | | | The best match will always be a cabinet identical to the first! My pair of 2x10s do everything I need.
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