cabinet questions

rocknrick · #1 10-24-2011, 09:10 AM

I have recently downsized from all ampeg tube head and a pr810 which I think top'd the scales at 235 pounds! since my back cant take it anymore I picked up a mark bass sd800 and have been looking into a new cabinet ...I like the looks of the markbass cl108 and only 90 pounds ...was looking into their 6x10 but the impedence was not at 4ohms where I want to be so thats out ...the other is the mesa boogie power house 6x10,but the weight is a bit heavy....tired of lugging all this stuff around so the markbass cl108 vs. mesa boogie power house 6x10 which is better sound-construction? like to hear what your thoughts are..Rick

Bass_Pounder · #2 10-24-2011, 09:57 AM

Why does your cab have to be 4 ohm ?

You do understand that even getting double wattage out of your head only accounts for a +3db gain (barely audible), even if the cab can completely make use of the extra wattage.

The whole "getting all of my wattage out of the head" thing is the wrong way to go about it.

Russell L · #3 10-24-2011, 10:04 AM

Have you considered getting two 8 ohm 410s instead of one 810?

BTW, I'm digging my Markbass stuff. It's the lightest in weight for being such top quality that I could find. IMO, of course.

Bredian · #4 10-24-2011, 10:14 AM

I'm not getting why cabinets where the bottom is rated at 56Hz are effective.. thats your A string. Hmmm.

Nevermind, the new 108 HR goes to 40 Hz (E)

Bass_Pounder · #5 10-24-2011, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Bredian

I'm not getting why cabinets where the bottom is rated at 56Hz thats your A string. Hmmm.

Do a search for "waterfall plots"

You are not hearing the fundemental of the note anyway, you are hearing mostly the second harmonic.

Bredian · #6 10-24-2011, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Bass_Pounder

Do a search for "waterfall plots"

You are not hearing the fundemental of the note anyway, you are hearing mostly the second harmonic.

Yes, you are correct with only hearing harmonics with the 10s typically. Instead of going to shops trying cabinets, I've been going to shows lately, listening to rigs. Heard the most beautiful sound yesterday, Avatar 118 under a 210 cabinet, through a GK 450 watt head. No boom. Just pure tone, like a giant piano string.

On the other hand, I did hear an Ampeg 810 a couple of months ago that did a drop D tuned bass justice on the bottom end. But, I've heard several 410s and 412 supplied bass players in the meantime that didn't do it. I too, am searching.

anonymous02282011 · #7 10-24-2011, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Bredian

Yes, you are correct with only hearing harmonics with the 10s typically.

speaker size is only one component of how a cabinet sounds. it's impossible to know anything about how a cab sounds judging by the diameter of the speakers alone.

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Originally Posted by Bredian

Instead of going to shops trying cabinets, I've been going to shows lately, listening to rigs. Heard the most beautiful sound yesterday, Avatar 118 under a 210 cabinet, through a GK 450 watt head. No boom. Just pure tone, like a giant piano string.

if the bass was going through the PA, you were most likely hearing the PA.

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Originally Posted by Bredian

On the other hand, I did hear an Ampeg 810 a couple of months ago that did a drop D tuned bass justice on the bottom end. But, I've heard several 410s and 412 supplied bass players in the meantime that didn't do it. I too, am searching.

the ampeg 8x10s roll off pretty steeply around 60Hz or so (if I remember correctly--maybe it's even higher) but the point is you're pretty much hearing the harmonic and not the fundamental, regardless of how low the instrument itself is tuned.

Bredian · #8 10-24-2011, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by adbass

speaker size is only one component of how a cabinet sounds. it's impossible to know anything about how a cab sounds judging by the diameter of the speakers alone.

if the bass was going through the PA, you were most likely hearing the PA.

the ampeg 8x10s roll off pretty steeply around 60Hz or so (if I remember correctly--maybe it's even higher) but the point is you're pretty much hearing the harmonic and not the fundamental, regardless of how low the instrument itself is tuned.

Yes, the 810 was at a large setting, DI through the PA - a big PA, pro set up - that could explain the clearer lows. The rest were club settings, no DI or mic'd input.

I'm playing through 10s, 12s and a 115 every week or two, each with its own +-.

rocknrick · #9 10-24-2011, 05:00 PM

thank you for all the input , I was interested between the 2 cabs... thought about maybe a 1x15 and a 4x10, but i guess i have to try them out first . I like to match the impedence it does not have to be 4ohms ....so back to markbass cl108 or the mesa boogie powerhouse thanks russell 1 for markbass