Which cabinet for a Shuttle 9.0 ?

apener · #1 06-20-2010, 08:09 AM

Hi guys,

I am trying to build a light, and modular small rig so I bought a shuttle 9.0

(will arrive in a few days). I want to pair it with two cabs. one which will be used as a stand alone for smaller gigs and rehearsals and both will be used for the bigger shows.

Right now I am asking:

which cabinet would you recommend as the stand alone with the shuttle 9.0? (bearing in mind that it will be paired to something later on)

I was thinking about these cabs:

Bergantino HT112ER - great stand alone...

Bergantino HS210 - read it was not great as a stand alone

Epifani UL210 - haven't heard these...

Shroeder 1210 - haven't heard these either

weight is a real issue here as I will be taking this with me on my flight back.... and will need to schlep is around a lot.

Thanks.

fretno · #2 06-20-2010, 11:19 AM

Perhaps a Epifani UL112 would do nicely as well for schlep'in

MysticMichael · #3 06-20-2010, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by apener

Bergantino HT112EX - great stand alone...

This one (you mean the Berg HT112ER, plus an EX112ER?)...

Or I would just get a fEarful 12/6/1 - with a mirror-image identical fEarful later on...

MM

SixString · #4 06-20-2010, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by fretno

Perhaps a Epifani UL112 would do nicely as well for schlep'in

This.

svtb15 · #5 06-20-2010, 12:13 PM

One nice thing about the Shuttle 9 is that is sounds really nice with many different cabs depending on your tone goals.. My tone goals vary from gig to gig, since I'm a bass mercenary..

I have used and own Aguilar Db and GS112s which does rock real well.
The GB Neox112 work great in many situations.. they cover a wide band of styles for my tastes. Has alot of grunt and clarity with a decent controlled bottom.. and it s the lightest of the bunch that i have played.
I have a bergantino HT112EX which i use for smaller gigs and singer songwriter stuff sound incredible and is the smallest of the cabs for easy moving where i dont need to rule the world.. But i bet a pair would be real nice.Very smooth from top to bottom.

And i used a friends Schroeder 1210 R which suprized the heck out of me how loud that and a Shuttle 9 will go on a tom petty type vibe band with guitars playing AC30s and a Hammond B3 with big Leslie.
The Schroeder's although not being big in the botom end somehow i forgot about that when i was able to really hear what i was doing easily since they are so mid punchy.. And i say that in a good way... The Schroeder was the loudest small cab that i personally have ever played.. and it cut through with ease..

Have used it on 810s and 412s too. and it drives the heck out of all of them...

I guess what im trying to convey here is that i have found the Shuttle 9 to sound good with a wide variety of cabs. So just about anything you get will sound good...

The HT210 form what i understand is sort of scooped... IIRC....
If you are set on a Berg setup.. and a few extra pounds wont bother you. the HT112ER is the way to go.. The AE112 is cool too, but personally i like the HT. just sounds a slight bit smoother in the upper mids to me..

apener · #6 06-20-2010, 02:45 PM

Hi,
I have tried the AE112 and liked the HT112ER much more too.
I played the HT112ER with a shuttle 6.0 and with a bass very close to mine and was blown away by the sound. I just don't have the experience with it at gigs....
Right now I play either an Ampeg HLF410 with a Crown XTi2000 and a Markbass CMD 151P which doesn't cut it for me in medium sized show.
I am a "mercenary" too... and need something versatile but in general I like a "sweet" sound: controlled lows not too boomie , strong (not scooped) mids , natural and not glassy/modern/hi-fi highs (not marcus type).
The shuttle+HT112ER+Elrick was sweet BUT, How does the others compare ?

apener · #7 06-20-2010, 02:46 PM

And If I'm not wrong the Bergs are lighter the the aggies...

svtb15 · #8 06-20-2010, 03:22 PM

The berg HT112ER has a nice bottom that is controlled and not boomy.. at least to me. The 12 handle alot of the sound with a smooth transition from upper mids to tweeter.. The tweeter just ads openness on top in a good way..Its very articulate and smooth...

The other cab i like is the GB neox112 but its a larger box... and to me its a more aggressive cab...and works well in just about any situation.. but if you are set of a berg cab.. the HT112ER certainly get my vote then... That cab eveb sounds good with the tweeter dialed off if you are playing a p bass or finger style.

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Originally Posted by apener

Hi,
I have tried the AE112 and liked the HT112ER much more too.
I played the HT112ER with a shuttle 6.0 and with a bass very close to mine and was blown away by the sound. I just don't have the experience with it at gigs....
Right now I play either an Ampeg HLF410 with a Crown XTi2000 and a Markbass CMD 151P which doesn't cut it for me in medium sized show.
I am a "mercenary" too... and need something versatile but in general I like a "sweet" sound: controlled lows not too boomie , strong (not scooped) mids , natural and not glassy/modern/hi-fi highs (not marcus type).
The shuttle+HT112ER+Elrick was sweet BUT, How does the others compare ?

svtb15 · #9 06-20-2010, 03:25 PM

The HT112ER and AE are lighter than the Aggies and smaller..
The Aggies have a nice Rock sound to me but can get a little tubby at times..
I have used Aggys for years....
But if you are talking about the HT vs the Aggy its nothing more than a pound or two which to me is not even worth thinking about...
If you want light try the AE,, if you dont care the then HT.. to me the HT is about as nice as they get.. but to me they are priced kind of high....
But the Shuttle 9 goes well with any of them..

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Originally Posted by apener

And If I'm not wrong the Bergs are lighter the the aggies...

apener · #10 06-20-2010, 05:02 PM

can you pinpoint how does the Shroeder 1210L compares to the Berg112ER ? (coupled with the shuttle 9.0)
They are about the same weight but the Shroeder light has neodymium which might sound harsher...

apener · #11 06-20-2010, 05:11 PM

And lets not forget the Epi UL112 or UL210 option....

chiplexic · #12 06-20-2010, 05:18 PM

One suggestion is the larger Shuttle cabs. Such as the STL-210T and STL-12T. The STL-210t is a nice mix of punch with a hefty low end growl on the lower notes. The tweeter is also unobtrusive.

apener · #13 06-20-2010, 06:00 PM

Hmmmm.....
I might be biased but as far cabinet quality I have a hunch that bergs, epi's and Shroeder are a safer bet as I probably won't be able to hear all of the options out there ... or I might be completely wrong....

apener · #14 06-20-2010, 10:50 PM

svtb15 · #15 06-20-2010, 11:12 PM

im not the guy to ask this stuff.. its not my forte...im not really good or have the patience to nit pick.. i only know if i like it or not...

but the gb neox112 is closer to the berg ht12er than the schroeder is to the berg...
the schroeder is very mid forward... if you listen to it in a soloed situation you would think it sounds like poo.. but on the gig i actually liked it alot...
the gb is loud too and punchy...and the ht112er is maybe the smoothest cab that i have heard.. smooth from top to bottom sonically..

apener · #16 06-21-2010, 12:02 AM

OK! I am sold... It will be the HT112ER.
Thanks svtb15 your advice is very much appreciated.

svtb15 · #17 06-22-2010, 11:04 AM

you're welcome... i wanted to stick on topic since you were specifically asking about Bergantino cabs.. so i share my limited experience with them.

That said, if anyone negatively says that all i do is promote Genz since i am an endorser , i say here is one of many examples of where i stick on topic and focus one the OP question..

The OP clearly is interested in berg or schroeder so that is where we stayed.. Since i get alot of flack im PM regarding the matter.. I just want to keep things clear...

That said.... The GB cab is very smooth too. But different.. Perhaps a little punchier than the Bergantino, and lighter. But the Berg seems to be exactly what the OP will need for his tone goals..