Cabinets with Low End

[DMBassNVox]

Im working with an SWR Goliath III (8 ohm, made in USA) playing a jazz bass tuned down to drop D, and my cabinet just isnt playing that low D as clear as Id like it to, and while planning to buy a five string, i dont want to buy one if this rig cant even handle a low D. are there any cabinets that are clearier than this? ive been looking at some EBS and stuff, but i just thought id get a little bit more of a....professional opinion

[Muckaluck]

Check out the new Avatar TB153 cab (http://www.avatarspeakers.com/), people are saying it will play the full range quite well. Also consider the Acme stuff, especially the new flatwounds he recently rolled out (http://www.acmebass.com/)

Both of those options won't break the bank and should go as low as you need.

[Mr. Foxen]

The 3015LF loaded two/three way jobs should sort you, Fearfuls and Barefaced. A bit of cunning cutting the very lows with EQ can help a bunch though.

[Rockmusician]

Look for a cabinet that has a low range of around 30Hz. Even then, don't expect much clarity. You will probably feel it more than hear it when playing with a band.

[Mr. Foxen]

Oh, the Aguilar GS cabs cope well with stupid low tunings, I was running a low A through my GS412, they sound huge, I don't think the really reproduce the uber low frequencies, but they go lower than most cabs, and have it where the beef is.

[jokerjkny]

your goliath cab should be able to handle most anything you throw at it just fine.

what kind of amp are you using? are you using an active onboard preamp on your bass?

[DMBassNVox]

Originally Posted by Mr. Foxen

Oh, the Aguilar GS cabs cope well with stupid low tunings, I was running a low A through my GS412, they sound huge, I don't think the really reproduce the uber low frequencies, but they go lower than most cabs, and have it where the beef is.

that sounds useful. the material that im gunna play is in ADADF (on a five string), so if it can handle that it sounds like i need to look into it.

[BigOldHarry]

Originally Posted by jokerjkny

your goliath cab should be able to handle most anything you throw at it just fine.

what kind of amp are you using? are you using an active onboard preamp on your bass?

This is what I was thinking - - Those cabs aren't perfect, but they should be just dandy for a low D...

I think your problem lies elsewhere...

[DMBassNVox]

Originally Posted by jokerjkny

your goliath cab should be able to handle most anything you throw at it just fine.

what kind of amp are you using? are you using an active onboard preamp on your bass?

no my SWR SM-400 busted a week after i bought it so i was forced to go to my backup head, which isnt a head at all, its just me hooking my SWR up to my old Hartke A100 combo amp. its not a bad low at all, im just super picky about clarity.

[canadian*eh]

Originally Posted by DMBassNVox

no my SWR SM-400 busted a week after i bought it so i was forced to go to my backup head, which isnt a head at all, its just me hooking my SWR up to my old Hartke A100 combo amp. its not a bad low at all, im just super picky about clarity.

I us a gk 1001rb with a Goliath IV 410 and it is not bad when it come to the bottom end like you said but i too am very picky like a b sting that is felt as clearly as it is herd it was not tell i got 2 410's that i was able to get that.... but i hated packing the 2 f them around so i ended up trading on off on a SWR Megoliath 810...Now that Has a clear low end that Can be felt ...wow the low notes take on a sub like feel.It is really something one has to try to know what i am talking about!! the 2 410's were great...but that 810 cab is in a league all of its own!!!...Mind you again it does help i have 700 watts feeding it with the 5 string boost button on. and i do have to say that a good head will make a big difference when it comes to your low end cause it does take a lot of watts to push a b string out there...i know there is big difference when it come to my bottom end push with my Gk 1001rb II head compared with my older 380 watts 700 rb I head!! Dont know if this helps at all but this is what has been working for me. All the Best!! Cheers Mate!!~Elliot

[countrybass007]

PJB amps and cabs reproduce the B string with more clarity than anything I've ever heard, but you might not feel that it's as punchy as an Ampeg 810. Nothing puts bass out to your audience like PJB, but the small speakers scare lots of players.

[jokerjkny]

Originally Posted by DMBassNVox

no my SWR SM-400 busted a week after i bought it so i was forced to go to my backup head, which isnt a head at all, its just me hooking my SWR up to my old Hartke A100 combo amp. its not a bad low at all, im just super picky about clarity.

frankly,

that setup sounds like it aint gonna do you any favors. besides, sounds like you need more horsepower for some extra added umph and kick, which'll clear up most any muddiness.

again, back off the input gain til you juuuuuust start clipping the red light on the preamp section. use the master volume for overall volume control, and you should be good to go.

what's your EQ like? both on your bass and your amp?

[Ric5]

The best way to get low end is pa support with subwoofers

[jokerjkny]

Originally Posted by Ric5

you win

[DMBassNVox]

Originally Posted by jokerjkny

frankly,

that setup sounds like it aint gonna do you any favors. besides, sounds like you need more horsepower for some extra added umph and kick, which'll clear up most any muddiness.

again, back off the input gain til you juuuuuust start clipping the red light on the preamp section. use the master volume for overall volume control, and you should be good to go.

what's your EQ like? both on your bass and your amp?

idk if youve seen the A100 or not, but there is no gain control on it. its volume, bass, treble, 7 band graphic EQ and a limiter (which is kinda like a volume compressor, i guess). my volume is at about...1 o clock position, bass at 9 o clock, treble at 9 o clock and the graphic EQ has lows boosted, high SLIGHTLY boosted, and mids cut. its not exactly muddy, but its not the clearest either.

[SactoBass]

Originally Posted by Mr. Foxen

The 3015LF loaded two/three way jobs should sort you, Fearfuls and Barefaced.

THIS!

You can contact Don Oatman at Low Down Sound (LDS) who builds 15/6 cabs using the 3015LF.

For the record, I have no affiliation with LDS.

[Mr. Foxen]

Originally Posted by DMBassNVox

that sounds useful. the material that im gunna play is in ADADF (on a five string), so if it can handle that it sounds like i need to look into it.

Best thing to do might be to score an SFX Thumpinator. It cuts out the frequencies that are just speaker upset and no contribution to the sound, and that may well really help save your cabs and tighten your sound.

[PDGood]

Eden amps have more definition of low notes than anything I've heard. I have the 405 and it has amazing clarity down low. I had always thought that it was about the cabinet until I heard that amp.
As cabinets go the 210XLT is a ported cabinet that reproduces low end well.
What you need will depend on the type of venues you play - how far you need to move the sound.

[Nev375]

Originally Posted by Mr. Foxen

Best thing to do might be to score an SFX Thumpinator. It cuts out the frequencies that are just speaker upset and no contribution to the sound, and that may well really help save your cabs and tighten your sound.

If the thumpinator slices off all frequencies below 30 hz, how is that going to help him hear his low A at 27.5 hz?

[RNV]

I play in Drop C using a Carvin BRX410NEO cab and it handles it with clarity at any volume I've put through it thus far. It IS a 4ohm cab though. Some people don't like a 4ohm 410 setup.