Cabs with the SVT Classic

[Kosex]

Hey!!! hello,
i got a question!!

What do you think about the Ampeg BSE 410 HLF... ??? Can handle an Ampeg SVT Classic head???

It's worse than the SVT 410 HLF ???

And what do you think is better?? the BSE 410 HLF, or SVT 410 HE + 115 HE??

I'm looking for a 60's- 70's sound, motown sound. Use an american standard jazzbass, and a Ampeg svt classic.

Please opinions!! Thanks

p.d: here's some information about the bse 410 hlf cab:

Dimensions 25.5(h) x 22.75(w) x 17.5(d)
Weight 91 lbs
Power 400 Watts RMS ,800 Watts Program (whatever that means)
Speakers 4 10's,tweeter with 3 position switch
Ohms 4 ohm
Other Black carpet cover,spring handles,chrome corners,shelf port,casters

[ajunea3]

If you're going for a vintage sound, you're best bet is to buy a SEALED cabinet. Either a 410-he or an 810-e. Just my opinion. Those ported cabs have a more modern sound.

[Kosex]

ah! and wich is the difference between a sealed cab and a ported cab???

[ducknturtle]

must get 4ohm cab to play with SVT

[Kosex]

Yes, this is 4 ohm.. but i've been reading that this is worse than the svt 410 hlf. I don't really know what to do

[coreyfyfe]

Originally Posted by Kosex

ah! and wich is the difference between a sealed cab and a ported cab???

The presence or absence of ports . The HLF cabs (both BSE and SVT) are ported, meaning they have ports (the big holes underneath the speakers) which have been tuned to allow air to flow out of the enclosure and help to increase bass response. Sealed enclosures typically have a more even frequency response.

The BSE series 410HLF is pretty similar to the SVT410HLF but with different cosmetics and a slightly different design. Has square shelf ports on the bottom below the grill (instead of tubes covered by the grill), casters on the bottom, carpet, and a metal grill. If there is one locally and you can try it out, go for it and see if you like it with your head. I've only played the SVT410HLF and I'm not big on ported cabs so I don't really care for either, and can't say which one is better.

The 410HE and 810E are the only currently offered ampeg cabs with 10s that are sealed, but if you go with the 410HE, you'll either have to get 2 or get a 115 with it to make 4 ohms. Honestly, I'd personally go with the 810 over two 410s, and two 410s over a 410/115 combo, but that's me. If you want smaller and portable, the 410HLF isn't a bad cab, just watch you lows, some people think they can get boomy.

[Sufenta]

Is your mind set on Ampeg? If not, you really should consider Berg's NV 610.
(Someone was bound to say it)

[One Drop]

Originally Posted by Sufenta

Is your mind set on Ampeg? If not, you really should consider Berg's NV 610.
(Someone was bound to say it)

Just as someone was bound to say:

+1!

[anderbass]

+3

Get a Bergantino NV610, you'll love the way it sounds and will find it way easier to transport than an 810e or even those HLF's.

[Kosex]

Ahhh... thanks!!!!

And anybody likes the BSE 410 HLF ???

[Jimmy Blue]

I use an SVT 410 HLF with the SVT-CL and think it sounds great. You just have to watch how much bass you dial into it. If you want a solid fat bottom this is a great combination.

JB

[Tim1]

If you like the 60s sound try to pick up a second hand Berg NV215 - fabulous cab.

[derridiandrift]

I use the SVT-410HE with my SVT-CL and my SVT-VR. A 4 ohm cab would be ideal, but you can still run an 8 ohm cab without hurting your SVT. You won't get the full crushing glory of 300 watts out of the amp though.

[Gearhead17]

The Ampeg BSE 410 is a beginner cab at best - if you like it though, buy it and rock it!

The James Jamerson Motown sound is a P bass with an Ampeg B15, a 15 inch speaker. I suggest two 15's or get the Berg NV610. The Berg cab has that sealed speaker vibe and will do the Motown sound with ease.

Sealed cabs tend to have a tighter sound, a thicker midrange, and the vibe of the older recordings.

Ported cabs have more low end, typically sound looser, and generally sound very clear. Great for pick playing and any style of bass.

Or course, there are variables, but that is a decent way to look at it.

[Gearhead17]

Originally Posted by Tim1

If you like the 60s sound try to pick up a second hand Berg NV215 - fabulous cab.

+1 Missed that in my last post! Could be perfect!

[JayAmel]

Originally Posted by ajunea3

If you're going for a vintage sound, you're best bet is to buy a SEALED cabinet. Either a 410-he or an 810-e. Just my opinion. Those ported cabs have a more modern sound.

+1.

[JayAmel]

Originally Posted by Kosex

I'm looking for a 60's- 70's sound, motown sound. Use an american standard jazzbass, and a Ampeg svt classic.

Apart the fact that Jamerson, as well as Dunn, both legends of soul/rhythm'n'blues bass, used to play Fender P's, I'm not sure an SVT will be the most appropriate amp for that tone.

Don't get me wrong, I consider the SVT being the best amp ever made, but in this particular case I'm not sure the SVT sound will help you come close to that Motown sound, even if you switch to a P-Bass.

About the B series cab, don't expect it to handle the whole juice coming out of an SVT, and don't expect it to spread the tone well. They work fine with mid-power solid-state heads (B2RE etc.), though.

[JimmyM]

well you'll have to do some eqing, but you can get that motown sound out of an svt. just run the neck pickup of the jazz, and boost treble and mids at 800hz. and maybe cut some bass depending on the cab.