Calling JimmyM- VT Bass into SVT

[Luckydog]

(or anyone else who does this) Jimmy I read that you had run your VT bass into your SVT. Due to the limitations of the VT Bass output (a single 1/4 inch jack), its not an ideal setup. I want to send an effected signal (VT Bass) from my bass to the board and I want to use my SVT for stage sound. I know I can put a DI after the VT Bass to split the signal for amp and board. But this would mean VT Bass effected signal would not just go to board, but would go to my SVT which already has a great sound. Do you find the VT Bass messes with your already good onstage sound from your SVT, and if so, how do you compensate for it? i spose I could do this-

.................-> SVT
Bass -> DI
.................-> VT Bass - > DI -> board

But that means 2 DI boxes. And also adapters for xlr to 1/4 inch and vice versa, due to the input/ output types on the DIs, the 1/4 in SVT input and my desire to send xlr to board. Does the VT Bass work well enough going into your SVT, to the point where you dont worry about it, or do you somehow split your signal so the VT Bass only goes to the house?

[sidez81]

Clearly I aint JimmyM but what I think you maybe lookin for is somethin like a Morley ABY box, cheap as and what you can do is have your bass into that and one of the outs to the SVT and the other to the VT/DI to the F.O.H. has the option to run either out seperate or both at the same time.

Morley ABY can have 2 instruments in to one out or 1 instrument in to 2 outs.

.................................... -> SVT
Bass - Morley->
...................................... -> VT->DI->FOH (board)

[sidez81]

please excuse my "drawings" but you get the idea lol

[Bassmec]

Originally Posted by Luckydog

(or anyone else who does this) Jimmy I read that you had run your VT bass into your SVT. Due to the limitations of the VT Bass output (a single 1/4 inch jack), its not an ideal setup. I want to send an effected signal (VT Bass) from my bass to the board and I want to use my SVT for stage sound. I know I can put a DI after the VT Bass to split the signal for amp and board. But this would mean VT Bass effected signal would not just go to board, but would go to my SVT which already has a great sound. Do you find the VT Bass messes with your already good onstage sound from your SVT, and if so, how do you compensate for it? i spose I could do this-

.................-> SVT
Bass -> DI
.................-> VT Bass - > DI -> board

But that means 2 DI boxes. And also adapters for xlr to 1/4 inch and vice versa, due to the input/ output types on the DIs, the 1/4 in SVT input and my desire to send xlr to board. Does the VT Bass work well enough going into your SVT, to the point where you dont worry about it, or do you somehow split your signal so the VT Bass only goes to the house?

The great thing about tube amp emulation and modeling is that it always sounds far better with it plugged in the input of a decent all tube amp.
Just send to the PA out of the SVT's di.
better than that if you feed a speaker cable to an Avalon U5
speaker input the pa gets your power amp compression too.

[Luckydog]

Thanks might do an aby box. Not sure abt the other. Have to think abt the settup.

[sidez81]

Originally Posted by Luckydog

Thanks might do an aby box. Not sure abt the other. Have to think abt the settup.

Morley ABY Channel Switcher I got one of them. Hope the info helps and all the best with searchin for options.

[Luckydog]

Yes thanks for the suggestion.

[Foz]

Mybe get the Putnam Guitar to add a DI to your pedal [and maybe put it in a rack as well]

Putnam Guitars - MODS

or split the signal as described above - FWIW when I want to use an instrument feed in 2 places I use one of these and it works perfectly

Lehle Gitarrentechnik PURE SOUND - NO NOISE - MORE TONE

Also, this one is cheaper and looks like it do all you wish to accomplish

Lehle Gitarrentechnik PURE SOUND - NO NOISE - MORE TONE

either Lehle unit cost more but assures clean separation. it'd be nice if you could try the cheaper Morley and see it it satisfied before springing for a Lehle i reckon.

[ddbassGA]

So what do Jimmy do? We all wanna know.

[JimmyM]

i don't split the signal because i use the vt deluxe and need it to run both my electric and upright. i really don't think it effects the sound of the svt negatively. still sounds like an svt to me. plus i run it at a setting that's very close to what i get with the svt by itself anyway, and i've taken to liking at least a little distortion all the time.

[Luckydog]

Thanks jimmy i vaguely recall you did say you put your vt into your svt. I'll play with that too.

[ian_s]

And there's a new signature line: "JimmyM put the VT in SVT."

[NKBassman]

I run my VT Bass straight into the front of my 2-PRO and then have the sound guy take the XLR off the back of the amp, but I'm using my VT Bass as an occasional drive effect, not an always-on tone shaper.

[Rickett Customs]

You're not telling me which SVT we're talking about here.....classic? VR? another?

I assume you're talking about the CL? There's a whole 'nother way to do this with a VR......

[Luckydog]

Im using either a 71 or 73 svt.

[Rickett Customs]

Originally Posted by Luckydog

Im using either a 71 or 73 svt.

Aye, So no DI out on the head then.

Yeah a dual DI what you would need then.

$30, you can get a dual DI then.

OSP DB-02 Dual Channel Stereo XLR 1/4 Direct Box Di

[bassboysam]

If you want to send the VT signal to the board then I assume you want the FOH to get the SVT kind of vibe. If that is the case why not run a speaker level DI to the FOH and send them the real thing instead of the VT.


--------------------Thru to bass Cab
Speaker Out > DI >
--------------------XLR to FOH

problem solved. you just need a DI that can take a speaker level input like a JDI, i think the Countryman can too.

[Floridabwoy]

I would say just put a countryman on the speaker line and call it a day. You can pickup one used cheaper than a used VTBass anyway.

[Luckydog]

Will a sadowsky di take a speaker level?

[bassboysam]

Originally Posted by Luckydog

Will a sadowsky di take a speaker level?

I don't believe so. I use a JDI with all my amps, including a vintage SVT, with no issues at all though.