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Old 03-25-2011, 06:44 AM
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Can an AE212 handle my band/gig?

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2 100 watt tube amps + 412
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Small bars or PA support
50 m3 rehearsal space
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Old 03-25-2011, 06:46 PM
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For the rooms where you'll be running your bass through the PA, the AE212 should be fine.

It should be just barely enough IF the loud drummer behaves and IF the people with the 100-watt half stacks behave, too.

The Streamliner 900 puts out 900 watts at 4 ohms, which is the AE212's impedance. You are going to have to be very, very careful how you use that amp with that cab -- not just with respect to volume but also with respect to tone settings. Watch your cones carefully for excessive excursion.
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Old 03-25-2011, 06:51 PM
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+1 to the above. Without serious PA support, and against 2 4x12 guitar stacks, you're woefully under speakered. Both volume and low eq can kill that cab in a heartbeat, be very careful.
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Metal and hard rock covers
2 100 watt tube amps + 412
Loud drummer
Small bars or PA support
50 m3 rehearsal space
Streamliner 900

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With two guitards playing in small bars with 100-watt tube amps and 4x12 cabs, I think the very first place I'd start would be with compelling the stupid guitards to use amplification that is actually suited to the size of the venues in which they perform. Only after accomplishing that are you in a position to accurately assess your own amplification needs - unless you want to go down the road to 2,000-watt bass amplifiers and dual 8x10 cabs, etc. In other words, the classic 'volume war power struggles'.

Alas, that would be way too sensible...

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For the rooms where you'll be running your bass through the PA, the AE212 should be fine.

It should be just barely enough IF the loud drummer behaves and IF the people with the 100-watt half stacks behave, too.

The Streamliner 900 puts out 900 watts at 4 ohms, which is the AE212's impedance. You are going to have to be very, very careful how you use that amp with that cab -- not just with respect to volume but also with respect to tone settings. Watch your cones carefully for excessive excursion.
The AE212 is rated at 600W RMS no? Which roughly translates to average power. So unless you are running at full power ALL the time, it should be totally fine. Cabs can be comfortably be paired with amps rated at 150% of their RMS power. FWIW.
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Never tried an AE212 but the people who own them sure seem over the moon about those cabs...I suppose a 900 watt amp into a 600 watt cab is technically risky, but those cabs are supposed to be stellar and the odds of you pushing the full 900 into it are pretty slim, even with the loud guitars...I guess the question is...do you own the AE212 or are you considering getting one? If you're still shopping for a cab, but LOVE the amp, maybe you might consider a different cab...if you already own both...bet you'll be just fine and it's gonna sound pretty great
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I agree one would have to be very careful in using only one cab, considering the whole of the situation of the OP. 'Sides, IF 1 is good......2 has to be mo' better
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I used a 2x12 and have no problems. But I don't play with any loud drummers. Basically, I only worry about keeping up with the drummer. If the guitars are too loud, there is not much I can do about it. Volume wars never solve anything.
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2 100 watt tube amps + 412
Loud drummer
Small bars or PA support
50 m3 rehearsal space
Streamliner 900

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Irrespective of which cab you get, until you address that guitar situation, you're going to get buried and your band won't sound very good.

I'd work on getting my guitar players to downsize their amps to something reasonable. That's going to be your #1 sound issue until it is addressed.

The 212 should be a great cab for reasonable applications.
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