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Old 12-01-2011, 06:25 AM
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Carvin PB15 preamp

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Has anyone/does anyone know anything about this preamp? It's aone space pre, solid state. Not anything like the redface Carvins. Anyone...? Thanks,GOD bless you!
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Old 12-01-2011, 10:49 AM
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Hi, yes I have one, had it for years but didn't use it much. Just never sounded that great to me (more in a minute). Here's a link to the Carvin Museum site about it:

The Carvin Museum - 1990 PB-15 Bass Preamp

Was also basically the same preamp in all the Carvin Pro Bass amps in the early 1990's (PB300, 500) but without the graphic EQ.
Doesn't seem to get too much love or don't think many folks have one.

About a year ago I happened across a review by someone who did some measurements and dissected it and found one particular thing that was interesting.

BGRA: Review of Carvin Pro Bass 15


Carvin has what it calls a "mudcutter" circuit (it's in the manual should be a PDF somewhere on the web that has the schematic as well) which is really a 600Hz fixed, non-defeatable notch filter after the first stage of the preamp. So no matter what you do, it will always have a scooped sound (mudcutter?). He defeated it by soldering a jumper wire on the PCB.

I got mine cheap ($95 IIRC) so I said what the heck, I tried it. Holy crap, the sound opened up after I did that and actually sounded pretty darn good (also been playing around with it and a Carvin DCM1500 into a nEARful cabinet). I decided to put a little toggle switch on the front panel instead of a permanent jumper. I also changed out a few of the op amps (the originals are the cheapest you can find, basically dual 741's which are considered junk by today's standards, but hey they work), with TL072's which while not state of the art (they are used in the Eden WT series amps) are a big improvement of the originals in terms of getting rid of some of the noise. Out of the box this preamp can be kind of hissy with the treble boosted.

I would say, as the reviewer stated, if you can do a bit of soldering and MAYBE if you want to get the noise down by replacing some op amps (they are cheap and just plug in, no soldering for those), then it's worth a shot if you can get it really cheap (less than $100). Otherwise I'd pass on it.
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Old 12-01-2011, 12:24 PM
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I have one. It was in my rack until just recently. I giged it since it was new and liked it a lot. When I cut down the size of my rig I switched to a Carvin BX500.
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Old 12-01-2011, 01:13 PM
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Hi, yes I have one, had it for years but didn't use it much. Just never sounded that great to me (more in a minute). Here's a link to the Carvin Museum site about it:

The Carvin Museum - 1990 PB-15 Bass Preamp

Was also basically the same preamp in all the Carvin Pro Bass amps in the early 1990's (PB300, 500) but without the graphic EQ.
Doesn't seem to get too much love or don't think many folks have one.

About a year ago I happened across a review by someone who did some measurements and dissected it and found one particular thing that was interesting.

BGRA: Review of Carvin Pro Bass 15


Carvin has what it calls a "mudcutter" circuit (it's in the manual should be a PDF somewhere on the web that has the schematic as well) which is really a 600Hz fixed, non-defeatable notch filter after the first stage of the preamp. So no matter what you do, it will always have a scooped sound (mudcutter?). He defeated it by soldering a jumper wire on the PCB.

I got mine cheap ($95 IIRC) so I said what the heck, I tried it. Holy crap, the sound opened up after I did that and actually sounded pretty darn good (also been playing around with it and a Carvin DCM1500 into a nEARful cabinet). I decided to put a little toggle switch on the front panel instead of a permanent jumper. I also changed out a few of the op amps (the originals are the cheapest you can find, basically dual 741's which are considered junk by today's standards, but hey they work), with TL072's which while not state of the art (they are used in the Eden WT series amps) are a big improvement of the originals in terms of getting rid of some of the noise. Out of the box this preamp can be kind of hissy with the treble boosted.

I would say, as the reviewer stated, if you can do a bit of soldering and MAYBE if you want to get the noise down by replacing some op amps (they are cheap and just plug in, no soldering for those), then it's worth a shot if you can get it really cheap (less than $100). Otherwise I'd pass on it.
Thanks. Ebay has one for $150. But this sounds like it's not worth the money or upgrades.
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Old 12-01-2011, 01:40 PM
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Saw that one. Was curious to see if it would go or not. Was relisted. Some folks might like it (fenderslaper did), but I thought it was much improved after I did the mods (before that it was collecting dust). Up to you, but I would look around a bit more. Actually some reasonable newer stuff around others have been discussing here. Also, depends on what your budget is.
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