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08-28-2010, 11:38 AM
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Hi, I have a 4 U rack that is already full (GK head, Korg tuner, DBX compressor) but I feel that I have to many cables at the back making the back of the rack a mess.
So this is why I feel a cheap power conditioner which can be placed at the BACK of my rack could organize things better and keep the power from the wall nice and clean
I was thinking about these two - The Samson PS10
Or The Furman M-8X both are around £40.
Any one have any advice on this plan/ experience with these two power conditioners.
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08-28-2010, 12:57 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: South Florida | | | I use the Furman M8LX ($85 US) which has the 2 lights in the front. It works for me and helps organize my rack. | 
08-28-2010, 01:02 PM
| | | | Not really fussed about the lights...its gonna be at the back of ma rack anyway. | 
08-28-2010, 01:07 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Switzerland | | | I take it this is for visual effect only, correct?
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08-28-2010, 02:55 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Lawton, OK / Ruston, LA | | | If your rack is full you aren't going to be able to put in another racked item. I would just get a power strip and get creative with some zip ties. | 
08-28-2010, 03:49 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Seweracuse, NY | | Quote:
Originally Posted by bmc I take it this is for visual effect only, correct? |
This is pretty much correct for power conditioners in general.
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08-28-2010, 04:00 PM
| | | | Geez -- he's putting it on the back of rack to clean up the cabling, pay attention.
I did the same thing, not using a power strip because it's unpleasant to try to get it securely mounted and the switch on it is less convenient that on a rack strip.
The furman was cheap and works fine.
As for power conditioning .. it's likely no better than the varistor in a power strip, but that's not the point.
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08-28-2010, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by bassmanbiff Geez -- he's putting it on the back of rack to clean up the cabling, pay attention.
I did the same thing, not using a power strip because it's unpleasant to try to get it securely mounted and the switch on it is less convenient that on a rack strip.
The furman was cheap and works fine.
As for power conditioning .. it's likely no better than the varistor in a power strip, but that's not the point. | There's a pile of rack mount strips out there, or he could do what I did for years which is use velcro to mount a removable interior strip.
Again, the only reason to have a power conditioner in your rack is for visual effect. Same answer.
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08-28-2010, 04:42 PM
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08-28-2010, 08:15 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2008 Location: triad, nc | | | while i certainly agree about them being no more than a rugged, rack-mounted power strip, the point is that they are a rugged, rack-mounted power strip.
master power switch can be very handy, though perhaps not so much in a bass rig...
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08-28-2010, 08:18 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2008 Location: triad, nc | | | forgot to mention that you should not discount what the diminished interior volume and reduced air flow might do as a result of mounting one of these things in the back. which gk do you have?
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08-28-2010, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by toobalicious forgot to mention that you should not discount what the diminished interior volume and reduced air flow might do as a result of mounting one of these things in the back. which gk do you have? | i don't think that's too much of a concern as long as no vents are blocked.
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08-29-2010, 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by toobalicious forgot to mention that you should not discount what the diminished interior volume and reduced air flow might do as a result of mounting one of these things in the back. which gk do you have? | Yeah the GK has plenty of air to breath, I keep it at the top of the rack and there is a little gap that helps alot.
The main reason for getting a cheap power conditioner was just for the master switch, this seems very convenient.
As a said before its gonna go in the back of my rack anyway so am not bothered about visual effects.
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08-29-2010, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by jacobrownoly The main reason for getting a cheap power conditioner was just for the master switch, this seems very convenient.
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If I'm reading this right, you're planning on leaving everything in your rack on, and using the power switch on the power "conditioner" to turn everything on/off - if that's correct, it's a bad idea...
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08-29-2010, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by BurningSkies There's a pile of rack mount strips out there, or he could do what I did for years which is use velcro to mount a removable interior strip.
Again, the only reason to have a power conditioner in your rack is for visual effect. Same answer. |
Yup - I doubt using any power "conditioner" could neaten up this setup any more:  | 
08-29-2010, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by BurningSkies There's a pile of rack mount strips out there, or he could do what I did for years which is use velcro to mount a removable interior strip.
Again, the only reason to have a power conditioner in your rack is for visual effect. Same answer. | How is it for visual effect when it's in the back of the rack?
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08-29-2010, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Vic Winters How is it for visual effect when it's in the back of the rack? |
The point was that power conditioners don't do anything, so no matter what, the only effect is visual. 
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08-29-2010, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by BurningSkies The point was that power conditioners don't do anything, so no matter what, the only effect is visual.  | they trn 1 source of power into multiple sources of power, just like a surge strip. does that mean the surge strip i have under my computer desk is for visual effect? I think not
is it poisslbe to mount something to the back send of one? I've never looked at my rack to see f there's rails on both ends...
also, +1 to NOT using the master switch as an on/off. amps don't like being "on" with no power... | 
08-29-2010, 12:59 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Toronto Ontario Canada | | | If you are using a moulded case ala SKB, no self stick Velcro will last for long before coming loose. A power strip can be attached at the back with screws or rivets. You can use a similar method to Georgestrings as well using the back rails and a metal bracket.
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