A comparison of ungodly amounts of volume

[llamalor2112]

Recently I have been having fun with a friends punk/metal band. Not the most pleasing sound but I'm having fun playing with em. Anyways, they both play very...um...passionately (loud as all hell) and I am being drowned out a little.

I currently am using a TC 450 with two RS210 cabs. Loud enough for everything else but just a little shy for these beasts. My decision to make my rig a little louder comes down to one question...

Which would be louder, the RH450 + Markbass CL108 (on sale locally for $600) or adding an RS212 to my 2X 210s?

[JimmyM]

cl108 will more than likely edge it out.

[Johnny Mack]

i dont know the specs of the specific equipment you have or are looking at, but typically you're better off adding speakers for more volume. this will open up the amp and add coupling, up to 6dB combined. in your case, i'd guess anywhere between 3dB and 5dB. if you're amp can take a lower ohm load, id go for more speakers.

[babebambi]

Originally Posted by JimmyM

cl108 will more than likely edge it out.

yeah, very hard to beat an 8x10 for volume
if you have the means to move it around
it looks like a good price too

[R Baer]

Probably a useless quest. The louder you get, the louder they will get!

[Evolver]

Originally Posted by R Baer

Probably a useless quest. The louder you get, the louder they will get!

+1. I just had an experience like this and it was just a practice situation. I tried the other approach (turned down where I could barely hear the bass for a few practices and pretended not to care). It worked... Now, we're at a much more reasonable volume and have a much better overall mix.

[Ric5]

When I play in a band where people get too loud I simply stop playing and plug my ears. Sooner or later they get the message.

[KingCrimson]

how loud are you guys? I play in a metal band and my Ashdown Mag 300 running at 8 ohms to a yorkville 115 and it is MORE then enough and we are LOUD.

Rule of thumb see how loud the drummer is, adjust to HIM

[steveksux]

First thing you need to buy is earplugs if you go down this road.

Randy

[llamalor2112]

See, the thing is that while turning down the volume would indeed yield a more musical experience that is not the main goal of this little group they've got. (all of us are in real and musically coherent groups) We just get together to blow off steam and just have fun playing as hard as we can. (in regards to judging volume off of the drummer, well, he is the whole reason it's loud to begin with)

I do have earplugs, I found out their importance pretty quickly when I "jammed" with them for the first time.

Their practice space is in a studio built above a garage so the only access is by means of about 20 or so steps. However, I still feal that the Markbass would be doable since it is only 89lbs! (heck, the hartke 12" combo I use at school is 85lbs!)

[naturalkinds]

Wouldn't adding another cabinet to your 2x10 TC pair lower the recommended impedance to a dangerous level?

[llamalor2112]

No, TC Electronic heads can handle any combination of 3 of their own TC branded cabs. By only running 2 of the 210s I'm not getting the full load of the RH450 head.

[zombywoof5050]

Originally Posted by llamalor2112

TC Electronic heads can handle any combination of 3 of their own TC branded cabs.

Wouldn't that hold true for any other cabs, as long as they were the same impedance?

[llamalor2112]

At the same impedance as the TC cabs, sure. But you'd have to know their impedance, its some strange ohm#...I think someone calculated it in the TC review thread.

[babebambi]

Originally Posted by zombywoof5050

Wouldn't that hold true for any other cabs, as long as they were the same impedance?

The rating you see at the back of the cab is nominal impedance. The actual impedance changes as you sweep through the frequency.

Cabs with the same nominal impedance, can have very different actual impedance curves. Thus TC only recommend 3 cabs if they are TC cabs.

[Buster Brown]

Originally Posted by R Baer

Probably a useless quest. The louder you get, the louder they will get!

+1,000


Amen Bro!!

[Son of Bovril]

get some earplugs that cut more of the high frequencies so you will hear your bass easier in the mix with the kick. Otherwise the 810 should sort your issues, or alternatively keep your rig as is at a reasonable volume and get some In ear monitors to allow you to hear just yourself better