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Old 04-19-2011, 01:17 PM
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Does this work well for heads that don't put out too much power? Rather than buy a preamp and running it into a power amp, I'm wanting to connect a solid state head to a power amp, to give it a little more power. The head is 500w and is having a little trouble pushing my 800w cab. The only problem is that the head doesn't have a preamp out jack. Any way to do this?
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use the DI if it has one. an XLR cable you will need.
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what kind of music are you playing that you neeeed more than 500 watts?
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Old 04-19-2011, 01:23 PM
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what kind of music are you playing that you neeeed more than 500 watts?
Agreed. Maybe you need a more efficient cab. My avatar 212 at 8 ohms gets 500watts from my Peavey Tour 700 in a loud hardcore setting and works great.
What cab are you running?
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Old 04-19-2011, 01:30 PM
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I don't need more than 500w necessarily, Just at times I feel like I'm pushing my cab a bit too hard to get the volume I'm looking for. I'm running an Ampeg SVT-810E right now. But I'm looking to pick up two 6x10s sometime in the future.
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use the DI if it has one. an XLR cable you will need.
So I would need to run a cable from my head XLR out to the power amp XLR in? Then power amp to cab?
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use the DI if it has one. an XLR cable you will need.
I think you will find that the output level from the DI will be insufficient to drive a power amp fully.

OP if you want more volume then more speakers is a better way to go than increasing power.
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I think you will find that the output level from the DI will be insufficient to drive a power amp fully.

OP if you want more volume then more speakers is a better way to go than increasing power.
Does the head drive the power amp? I thought the power amp would essentially just boost the signal?
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I think you will find that the output level from the DI will be insufficient to drive a power amp fully.

OP if you want more volume then more speakers is a better way to go than increasing power.
+1

Also, you say you "feel like you're pushing the cab too hard" ... if you're cab is being pushed to its limit with the power in your current amp what do you think pushing it with more juice will accomplish?

Also also: are you playing stadiums? How the **** is 500W into an 8x10 not loud enough?
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Does the head drive the power amp? I thought the power amp would essentially just boost the signal?
In order to give their full output, power amps need a certain voltage level at their inputs. Typically this can be 1 to 4 volts AC. The DI is meant to feed a PA channel strip and can be either microphone level or, more usually, line level depending on the amp.
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You are looking for a solution to having not enough bass in the room with 500W into a fridge?

Ideally, a proper PA and a smaller rig.
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Does the head drive the power amp? I thought the power amp would essentially just boost the signal?
A bass head is a preamp, ( with accessory line outputs, DI, effect loops, whatever ) coupled to a power amp.

DI can be only as powerful as a microphone. Try plugging a mic straight into a power amp, 1 mousepower will come out.
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Old 04-20-2011, 06:23 AM
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A bass head is a preamp, ( with accessory line outputs, DI, effect loops, whatever ) coupled to a power amp.

DI can be only as powerful as a microphone. Try plugging a mic straight into a power amp, 1 mousepower will come out.
+1......and don't ever run the output of your current head into the input of a power amp.
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The head is 500w and is having a little trouble pushing my 800w cab.
The displacement limited power handling of an SVT is 320 watts.
If you can't get enough output you don't need more power, you need a more efficient cab. That means vented, not sealed.
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+1......and don't ever run the output of your current head into the input of a power amp.
+1000
Unless you like smell of magic smoke escaping from two amps simultaneously
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