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Old 04-24-2010, 02:05 PM
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So I normally wouldn't do this, but I am in a huge pinch.

I have the opportunity to buy 2 different cabs.

An older Avatar 410 loaded with Deltas for $270 or

a Mesa Boogie Powerhouse 6x10 for $500. Located a 4 hour round trip drive away, but may be well worth the drive.

I have the money for both, but would like to save it. I am considering the resale value of the cabs. I am pretty sure I could resell the Avatar for what I pay, and I know the Mesa I could make money off of, if need be.

Both cabs will suit my style of playing, I am just looking to make the best decision and would like an outside opinion.
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Old 04-24-2010, 02:08 PM
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mesa hands down...heavy to move but tone tone tone
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Old 04-24-2010, 03:27 PM
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Old 04-24-2010, 03:32 PM
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The Mesa will no doubt have the better resale value... But I'd take the Avatar... Less money and time invested, smaller and lighter to haul (though not much!). Make a couple hundred from gigs, and whatever you get on resale is a bonus!
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The Mesa is worth the drive - is it the newer 610? The Newer Powerhouse cabs are quite heavy, but I also agree the tone is quite worth it. The volume those things put out is amazing!

I don't think the Avatar is a bad choice - I don't have experience with them though.
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So I normally wouldn't do this, but I am in a huge pinch.

I have the opportunity to buy 2 different cabs.

An older Avatar 410 loaded with Deltas for $270 or

a Mesa Boogie Powerhouse 6x10 for $500. Located a 4 hour round trip drive away, but may be well worth the drive.

I have the money for both, but would like to save it. I am considering the resale value of the cabs. I am pretty sure I could resell the Avatar for what I pay, and I know the Mesa I could make money off of, if need be.

Both cabs will suit my style of playing, I am just looking to make the best decision and would like an outside opinion.
a boogie 6x10 for five hundred....in a heartbeat
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Old 04-24-2010, 03:58 PM
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If you have a vehicle to move it, Mesa. No contest.
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Old 04-24-2010, 04:02 PM
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Absolutely. Mesa is pure class and quality, not that Avatar isn't, but between the 2, the Powerhouse will smoke it.
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Old 04-24-2010, 04:16 PM
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That is what I am thinking. The cab isn't that huge, really. It actually only measures 7 inches taller than my 2x12 and 3 inches deeper.

The final kicker is I can get an Ampeg 410-HLF for $400 locally also.
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The Ampeg 410HLF is a low end giant, but unless you use it with the 3 PRO, the cab really lacks midrange punch and articulation. The Avatar and Mesa would have a better tone in the midrange.
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I don't own those exact cabs, but I do own both Mesa and Avatar.

The Mesa will eat the Avatar for lunch - no question !
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PH610 no question. And TBH, the newer 610's are nothing in weight and PITA-to-move compared to the old Diesel ones!!
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Old 04-24-2010, 08:00 PM
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Honestly, 100 lbs isn't bad. Weight has never been an issue, seeing as my first bass cab was a Megoliath. Got that for a steal also.
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The one I would go with starts with an M...and ends in -esa.
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I think I am getting the point here. It is worth throwing in the extra $200 and getting a Mesa.

I figure if I don't like, or if it is too much cab for my needs, I will ditch it and make some money. Worst I can do is break even.
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Yeah you should easily break even with $500 into that cab.

For that $$ tho, make sure the input jacks work properly and all the drivers are solid. That's almost a too good to be true deal! If not, rawk it!

And my Berg is also right around 100lbs and I agree it's pretty manageable.
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I think I am getting the point here. It is worth throwing in the extra $200 and getting a Mesa.
It's not a dilemma, dude. It's a no-brainer...

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Old 04-24-2010, 08:14 PM
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Yeah, its at a Guitar Center, so I get to run it through its paces while I am there, assuming it is still there when I arrive tomorrow. It is actually $480 after a $50 item discount and taxes. I am pretty excited about it.
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