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05-25-2011, 02:37 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: NOVA / DC / MD | | | Dear Genz-Benz Uber Cabinets,
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I dearly, dearly want to love you... but you only have one Neutrik input, and I gave up 1/4in connections years ago. Can we ever find a resolution?
Yours Truly,
BrianVengeance
PS - a 4 ohm 15in cab would be great too... 
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05-25-2011, 03:27 PM
|  | I'm super, thanks for asking! Beta Tester: Source Audio | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Chicago, IL | | | Does your head only have one Speakon output? | 
05-25-2011, 03:54 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: NOVA / DC / MD | | | Nah, its got three (SVT4PRO -> A, B, bridge), but I would prefer to daisy chain out with the speakon / neutrik as well. I realize it can be done with the 1/4 inch parallel inputs, but it seems to be an annoying omission on a modern cabinet. :/
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05-25-2011, 04:50 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: NOLA | | | Aw come on.... You're saying, "I don't want to use that speakon, I want to use THAT speakon." | 
05-25-2011, 05:10 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Kansas City | | | Seriously? I suppose it's a positive for the Uber cabs if this is the worst thing you have to complain about.
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05-25-2011, 06:00 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Milwaukee, WI | | | Can't believe how crappy people around here can be. He simply wants another Speakon. He didn't complain, trash GB or anything else negative. Geez, let then guy speak his mind. | 
05-25-2011, 06:17 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: South Florida | | Why not email Genz directly? when I bought my GB head I emailed with a question and got answer the next day from the main person, no kidding.....  | 
05-25-2011, 06:20 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Dallas, TX | | | You could always install one if you need it so badly. I have zero complaints re: my Uber 212. Best 212 ever.
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05-25-2011, 06:26 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Buffalo, NY | | Quote:
Originally Posted by babsobass Can't believe how crappy people around here can be. He simply wants another Speakon. He didn't complain, trash GB or anything else negative. Geez, let then guy speak his mind. | Umm, no one stopped him from speaking his mind. And so what, no one can speak their's back? I think it is a natural question by anyone reading the original post to ask whether his head only has one speakon output. And when the response is that he in fact has three of them, to wonder what the difference is between connecting two speakers to the head rather than one to the head and one to the speaker to which the head is connected.
You need two connectors either way. So unless you're doing something wierd that is hard to imagine, how is it any different? And if you have a speaker to speaker fetish, there is always the 1/4", unless of course it is a speakon to neutrik speaker to speaker fetish, and then of course your just plain SOL!
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05-25-2011, 06:43 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: CT | | Maybe he only has two 2' speakon cables.
1 goes head to cab, and wanted to go from that cab to bottom cab.(the short cable may not reach to the bottom cab)
now in order to use the two 2 footers, he has to stack the cabs horizontally.
Hey, it's a plauseable scenario.
Yes, I know, he could get a longer cable...but I'm making a point.
Personally,I'm glad my speakers have two...so I can see the OPs frustration. | 
05-25-2011, 06:53 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: NOVA / DC / MD | | Lol, I just prefer speakon connections for higher wattage stuff (nobody want to see a cable accidentally pulled and land in a small lake of beer). GB even suggests using them: Quote: |
Full Range SpeakonŽ Input - We recommend using this input with the appropriate cable when connecting to a high powered bass amp - 400 watts or more.
| Just seems to be a strange omission (to me). 8 ohm cabinets easily find themselves daisy chained out from a high powered amp. Even at 1000W total power output, two cabinets would be taking 500W apiece - 100W above their bullet point on the connection.
For the price of the cabs I doubt that cost is a factor... so it just strikes me as odd.
Besides, EVERYONE knows that Speakons carry more BOOM! :P
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05-25-2011, 07:15 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: NOVA / DC / MD | | Quote:
Originally Posted by BuffaloBob4343 And when the response is that he in fact has three of them, to wonder what the difference is between connecting two speakers to the head rather than one to the head and one to the speaker to which the head is connected. | In continuous watts:
A, B: 300W @ 8 ohm, 490W @ 4 ohm, 600W @ 2 ohm
Bridge: 900W @ 8 ohm, 1200W @ 4 ohm
The difference between the outputs boils down to amp efficiency (my preference is 4 ohm > 8 ohm > 2 ohm ).
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05-25-2011, 08:26 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Lawton, OK / Ruston, LA | | | Are you saying that you are running the amp bridged. That's a whole different issue all together. Just get a speakon Y Cable or make one. | 
05-25-2011, 08:59 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: NOVA / DC / MD | | | Not per se...
With a pair of 5-600W 4 ohm cabinets, I'd likely run stereo (unbridged).
With a pair of 8 ohm cabinets, I'd likely run bridged regardless of the wattage.
A Y cable could be an option, but specialty cables make me break out in hives (as do pedal boards and batteries, but that's another story). Basically, if it breaks at a show and I can't beg, borrow or steal it in short order, it doesn't end up in the rig.
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