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09-28-2004, 06:35 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Newark D.E | | | Demeter 600 mini review I gigged with my new Demeter 600 head this past weekend.
I used it with an older 8 ohm Epifani 210 that's been modified with the newer UL speakers. My sound was clean, clear, strong, and very tight. I also had plenty of punch. The room was a small club size venue. I had alot of head room and I must say this new head really did the trick. I'm use to a HBP-1 w/ a crest CA9. Of course the poweramp side dosen't compare with a CA9 but, this unit is alot lighter. So, for small to medium venues I have what I need to get my sound and save my back too.  | 
09-28-2004, 07:12 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: NY / NJ / PA | | | cool,
been wonderin' about this guy.
how are the passive controls? are they as useless as on the VTBP?
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09-28-2004, 07:58 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Newark D.E | | | Same Same The front end is exactly the same as the HPB-1. The parametric really kicks it into turbo! 27 lbs, 2 rack space, and 14" deep. | 
11-17-2004, 01:35 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2003 Location: Toronto ON - Beauty, eh? | | | | 
11-17-2004, 01:43 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Lakewood Colorado | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by jokerjkny cool,
been wonderin' about this guy.
how are the passive controls? are they as useless as on the VTBP? |  The EQ on the Dem pre is very useful. IMO of course. | 
11-17-2004, 03:43 PM
|  | Player Characters fear me... Moderator | | Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Middletown CT, USA | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by metron  The EQ on the Dem pre is very useful. IMO of course. | i think so too - and usually you don't need it
that said i really dig the hbp1's parametric, i wish i had one
what are the specs on the head as far as wattage? and can it power a 2 ohm load?
cost might be cool too.
thanks
ivan | 
11-17-2004, 04:05 PM
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11-18-2004, 08:35 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Lakewood Colorado | | | I wish there were two versions with the VTBP or HBP as pre options. I just like the VTBP better. | 
11-18-2004, 01:48 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2003 Location: Toronto ON - Beauty, eh? | | | I've never tried the HBP, but now from searching posts, it seems that people are saying it's a bit harsher in the upper treble freqs. I almost bought the VTBP years ago but had the good fortune of A/B-ing it with an F-2B and I liked the Alembic a tad better. | 
11-18-2004, 05:20 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Lakewood Colorado | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by um... yeah I've never tried the HBP, but now from searching posts, it seems that people are saying it's a bit harsher in the upper treble freqs. I almost bought the VTBP years ago but had the good fortune of A/B-ing it with an F-2B and I liked the Alembic a tad better. | Yeah thats pretty much what I found when I A/Bd the two. I thought the VTBP had a little more sweetness in the midrange as well. It was really splitting hairs though. In a mix there would be virtually no sonic difference as they are both great pres.
So has anyone else had experience with this head? | 
11-18-2004, 08:26 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2003 Location: Toronto ON - Beauty, eh? | | | Man this is nuts. I'm gassing like a greek pastry chef.... OK I don't even know what that MEANS.
In a few weeks I'll have enough money to either pay off my credit card debt OR buy The HB 600 AND a Compulator... but I dunno, I love my Alembic and Hafler. I'm talking nonsense right now. Duurrrrrr, rruuurrr, ruuuurrrr zip weeeeeeeeeeee!! | 
11-19-2004, 08:54 AM
|  | Player Characters fear me... Moderator | | Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Middletown CT, USA | | | hmmmmmmmmm, i'll have to try one | 
11-19-2004, 09:00 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Lakewood Colorado | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by um... yeah Man this is nuts. I'm gassing like a greek pastry chef.... OK I don't even know what that MEANS.
In a few weeks I'll have enough money to either pay off my credit card debt OR buy The HB 600 AND a Compulator... but I dunno, I love my Alembic and Hafler. I'm talking nonsense right now. Duurrrrrr, rruuurrr, ruuuurrrr zip weeeeeeeeeeee!! | The wisest choice is obvious. Get the amp and let us know how it sounds.  | 
11-19-2004, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by metron I wish there were two versions with the VTBP or HBP as pre options. I just like the VTBP better. | Agreed! | 
11-21-2004, 03:47 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Newark D.E | | | Still goin strong I'm content with my gear... I don't think I've every been this way before. The HB600 is very cool, I love it. I also like the Vtb201s pre however, the the HBP-1 has a bit more flexiblility and that works for me. Since the first time I used the HB600, it gradually sound better and better. Must be some kind of electronic thing. | 
11-21-2004, 07:45 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: San Diego, Ca. | | | That sounds like a great head. I have the HPB-1 pre and I love the parametric section. I also have an Eden 800 and I keep coming back to the Demeter for clarity. Hope you enjoy it! | 
11-21-2004, 10:15 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Newark D.E | | | I sold my Eden WT800 right after I got my HBP-1.
IMO this is one of, if the not the best head on the
market. The HB600 is most defintely all that or all dat.
Which every one is the hippest.
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11-22-2004, 03:38 PM
|  | Player Characters fear me... Moderator | | Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Middletown CT, USA | | | so, if ya don't mind me asking, what did you end up paying for it retail? | 
11-22-2004, 08:39 PM
|  | Player Characters fear me... Moderator | | Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Middletown CT, USA | | | so i hear around 1500 or so give or take.
i may have to save up for one.
i was interested in the aggie 500 but decided against it as it wasnt a lot louder than my eden 400 and couldnt do the 2 ohm thing (which is one thing i dont liek about the eden 400 - i was actually considering getting an eden 550 which will power 2 ohms). before i get into trouble, i think the aggie 500 is a wonderful head, and woulnt say anything bad about it.
the difference between the 201s and hbp1 has been talked and debated to death. i like them both. i have an old "black face" one and a half space 201 which is awesome, and from what one dealer tells me, the old 201 sounds better than the two newer amps, (in their opinion). I havent done a test so i won't comment. Using my own ears and talking to the folks at demeter i was able to determine that the hbp1 sounds a little "quicker" and "tighter" than the 201s, which demeter says is due to the output stage being solid state in the hbp1. I also think the parametric eq on the hbp1 is the best i've heard on a preamp. To me, the big bummer about the hbp1 is the inability to switch the frequencies of the bass and presesnce controls. On the 201s and the old 201 the bass is selectable for 60 Hz or 120 Hz, and the presence for 2 kHz or 4 kHz (the earliest 201's selected between 3 kHz and 6 kHz for the presence control). what i have found on the old 201 is switching between 60 Hz and 120 Hz has a dramatic impact upon the tone of the preamp, regardless of where the bass control is set. (i don't recall if the same is true on the new 201s). I tend to prefer 60 Hz for most applications. On the HBP1 the center freqecies for the bass and presence are hard wired at 120 Hz and 2 kHz. All that aside i'm really digging the idea of the demeter 600 head, especially due to the fact that it will power a 2 ohm load and that it uses a MOSFET power section. (the MOSFET of the aggie 750 is pure heaven). I'll definitly have to try one out. It just may replace my eden wt-400 as a backup amp. The eden sounds great, but i prefer the demeter sound, and the idea of having it in a head is very tempting. Giev us some more reviews when you get to take it out for some gigs!
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01-03-2005, 05:05 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Newark D.E | | | price you say Yup! $1500.00 is correct and well worth it...
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