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01-11-2011, 04:34 PM
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So, I'm pretty sure I know the answer to this, but I just want to make sure I'm right before I do anything else.
I was just messing around a bit with my amp (rather loudly), my speakers started to sound a bit distorted, then just went silent. I'm assuming that the speakers got blown out (or is there something else that could have gone wrong with the cab?), but since my knowledge of how amps work is very limited, I wanted to see if I had any options on how to proceed. Is the cab dead for good, or is it possible/worth it for me to somehow get it fixed? | 
01-11-2011, 04:36 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Davison,Michigan | | | Yea, it's blown.
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01-11-2011, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ThisisCraigP Yea, it's blown. | So what exactly can I do about it? Anything? | 
01-11-2011, 04:38 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Maine | | | Replace the speakers. Ha. | 
01-11-2011, 04:40 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Colorado | | Quote:
Originally Posted by nym_kalahi So what exactly can I do about it? Anything? | Have the speakers replaced.
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01-11-2011, 04:51 PM
| | Registered User Bass player | | Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Downunder Oz | | | You gotta find out whats wrong first !!
Check all leads & cables connected.Try different cables all round.
Check that the speaker wire is connected ` internally`. Maybe when you were playing rather loudly they may have come undone ?
Test speakers with a battery ! Read up on TB if you dont know how its done.
Easy test is......
Gently push the cone inward & listen for a rubbing sound , if you notice fricton speakers damaged.
P.S - What exactly were you doing when this occured ? | 
01-11-2011, 04:59 PM
|  | www.HeavyMetalOpera.com Unofficialy endorsing EBMM, Avatar Speakers | | Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle (ish), WA | | | If you're getting -no- output at all from the cab, I would look elsewhere before determining that the speakers are blown.
Check cables (as stated above).
Check head - swap in another one if you can.
Check bass - again, use another bass if you can.
If you change all of those and still get nothing, that starts to point to the cab. | 
01-11-2011, 05:06 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Davison,Michigan | | | I assumed the dude check everything first lol.
But yeah, after everything else is ruled out and the speakers are blown you can either replace then (pain in the butt) or get a new cab.
If it's under warranty just take it back.
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01-11-2011, 05:14 PM
|  | www.HeavyMetalOpera.com Unofficialy endorsing EBMM, Avatar Speakers | | Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle (ish), WA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by ThisisCraigP I assumed the dude check everything first lol.
But yeah, after everything else is ruled out and the speakers are blown you can either replace then (pain in the butt) or get a new cab.
If it's under warranty just take it back. | It's especially bad since the OP's profile isn't filled out, nor did he tell us what any of his setup is, so we can only take shots in the dark here... | 
01-11-2011, 05:23 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Melnibone | | | Did I just blow my speakers? Is there a stain on your blue dress? | 
01-11-2011, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Ray Salamon It's especially bad since the OP's profile isn't filled out, nor did he tell us what any of his setup is, so we can only take shots in the dark here... | Sorry. I was using an old pre-gibson Trace Elliot AH350X with a 1048 cab. Quote:
Originally Posted by Growly Lytes You gotta find out whats wrong first !!
Check all leads & cables connected.Try different cables all round.
Check that the speaker wire is connected ` internally`. Maybe when you were playing rather loudly they may have come undone ?
Test speakers with a battery ! Read up on TB if you dont know how its done.
Easy test is......
Gently push the cone inward & listen for a rubbing sound , if you notice fricton speakers damaged.
P.S - What exactly were you doing when this occured ? | Ok, so, tested the head, and the bass (both are fine). I did the battery test, and i DID get sound. I pushed on the speakers a bit, and I didn't notice anything. So the cab responds to the battery test, but not the head's input. What does that mean?
Edit: Also, I just tried running a 1/4" cable from the line out (instead of the default output) into the cab, and when I turned the up volume up pretty high, a tiny bit of sound came out. O_o
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01-11-2011, 05:35 PM
| | Registered User Owner, Bill Fitzmaurice Loudspeaker Design | | Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: New Hampshire | | Quote:
Originally Posted by nym_kalahi Sorry. I was using an old pre-gibson Trace Elliot AH350X with a 1048 cab.
Ok, so, tested the head, and the bass (both are fine). I did the battery test, and i DID get sound. I pushed on the speakers a bit, and I didn't notice anything. So the cab responds to the battery test, but not the head's input. What does that mean?
Edit: Also, I just tried running a 1/4" cable from the line out (instead of the default output) into the cab, and when I turned the up volume up pretty high, a tiny bit of sound came out. O_o | How did you test the head? With another speaker?
if the cab responds to the battery test it should work with the amp. | 
01-11-2011, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by billfitzmaurice How did you test the head? With another speaker?
if the cab responds to the battery test it should work with the amp. | I ran a cable from the line-out into a crappy little combo amp that I had laying around. It was, however, not the same output as the regular XLR that goes into the cab.
I wish I had more of a clue of what I'm talking about.  | 
01-11-2011, 05:46 PM
|  | double parked Endorsing Artist: Dark Horse strings | | Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Verde Valley, AZ | | | It's starting to sound like you might have popped the amp. There's a lot of circuitry between an amp's line output and its speaker output. It makes more sense. No, the line outs are not meant to drive speakers.
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01-11-2011, 05:48 PM
| | Registered User Owner, Bill Fitzmaurice Loudspeaker Design | | Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: New Hampshire | | Quote:
Originally Posted by okcrum It's starting to sound like you might have popped the amp. There's a lot of circuitry between an amp's line output and its speaker output. It makes more sense. No, the line outs are not meant to drive speakers. | +1. | 
01-11-2011, 05:54 PM
| | | | Uh oh. So if that's the case, I'm probably screwed, right?
Could it possibly be the speaker output fuse that's blown? That's easy to replace right? How could I tell if it is or not?
EDIT: So, it's definitely not the cab. I just *remembered* that my head has two speaker outputs (full range and high pass), so I hooked up the cab to the high pass, and it works. So what does this say about the head now?
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01-11-2011, 06:02 PM
|  | double parked Endorsing Artist: Dark Horse strings | | Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Verde Valley, AZ | | | Well if it's a glass fuse you should see a wire running along the fuse. If that wire is missing or has a gap, it's blown. Since it's been about an hour since your first post, I would figure that if your amp went into some high temperature protection mode, it'd have reset itself already. You might have to power cycle it to get it to reset, though, I'm not familiar with the Traces.
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01-11-2011, 06:10 PM
| | | | Well, it looks like it was just the fuse after all. Man, I was pretty worried, I'm glad it's not an expensive fix.
On that note, I know it's supposed to be a 6.3A fuse, but is there anything else I should be aware of when looking for a fuse? | 
01-11-2011, 06:27 PM
|  | double parked Endorsing Artist: Dark Horse strings | | Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Verde Valley, AZ | | Nope, just get the same size fuse, and now you know where the limit on that head is.
EDIT: You may want to get a few fuses, Just In Case.
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