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tmc2300 01-23-2013 11:10 AM

DNA cab or Aguilar cab or both?
 
I recently checked out the DNA DNS 112 micro and the Aguilar DB112 at Bass Club Chicago (very cool place!). I was able to A/B test these with a Tone Hammer 500. The DNA cab handles the low B wonderfully. It's clear and punchy, but the mids and highs sound a tad brittle to me. The Aguilar DB112 sounds great in the mids and highs but thick and muddy on the low B. So do I get both? This might be a nice frankenrig or not. I didn't try them together. Wish I did. Has anyone tried this combination of cabs?

KJung 01-23-2013 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by tmc2300 (Post 13764481)
I recently checked out the DNA DNS 112 micro and the Aguilar DB112 at Bass Club Chicago (very cool place!). I was able to A/B test these with a Tone Hammer 500. The DNA cab handles the low B wonderfully. It's clear and punchy, but the mids and highs sound a tad brittle to me. The Aguilar DB112 sounds great in the mids and highs but thick and muddy on the low B. So do I get both? This might be a nice frankenrig or not. I didn't try them together. Wish I did. Has anyone tried this combination of cabs?

I wouldn't suggest mixing those very different cabs. Also, a 'thick' low B in a music store often translates to a punchy, articulate, balanced low B on the gig:smug:

IMO the DB112 is MADE for the TH500. Aguilar all the way in this case, ESPECIALLY is you use a more traditionally voiced instrument like a P or J type.

That being said, pick the one you like, and then get a second if you need more volume. The low end will open up do to the coupling nicely.

CL400Peavey 01-23-2013 11:19 AM

Decide on which cab you like the best, then get two. I do not recommend you mixing different cabs.

tmc2300 01-23-2013 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by KJung (Post 13764520)
I wouldn't suggest mixing those very different cabs. Also, a 'thick' low B in a music store often translates to a punchy, articulate, balanced low B on the gig:smug: .

A punchy, articulate, balanced low B is what I'm after. I don't want mud. I currently play through a 4x10 ampeg pro cab. It's a great cab, but won't fit into my car, hence the quest for some smaller cabs. I'm also after a little more low end since I've been doing more low B stuff lately.

CL400Peavey 01-23-2013 11:35 AM

If you can make the drive up to Wilmette you should see about visiting Mike Arnopol. He should have a number of cabs that make the two you tried look like toys.

KJung 01-23-2013 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by CL400Peavey (Post 13764633)
If you can make the drive up to Wilmette you should see about visiting Mike Arnopol. He should have a number of cabs that make the two you tried look like toys.

Nah, that DB112 is stunning sounding. Yes, other cabs will have more low end:p

willsellout 01-23-2013 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by KJung (Post 13764666)
Nah, that DB112 is stunning sounding. Yes, other cabs will have more low end:p

Yeah. No kidding.

RickenBoogie 01-23-2013 04:09 PM

A pair of DB112's would make for an awesome little rig, *almost* as loud as your 410. Low end does increase when you put 2 cabs together, and matched cabs always pair best. The DB112 comes with or without a tweeter. One with, one without would make a great pair.

Bassist30 01-23-2013 06:39 PM

I have a pair of DB12's and when Im away from them with another cabinet I always return as they are something special. I know many say they articulate the mids, but they have an excellent low end.

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Musiclogic 01-23-2013 08:05 PM

David Nordschows cabs are awesome, you will not find a clearer cab made today.

rmayer 01-23-2013 08:10 PM

Keep in mind the Aguilar DBs are a rear ported cabinet, so the low end might vary by where it's placed in relation to a wall or corner. I had a DB410 that I hated when I first got it home, until I moved it away from the wall. Now I use the GS212 or one or two GS112s. The GS cabs are front ported, similar to the DNAs. I like their low end sound more than the DBs.

CL400Peavey 01-23-2013 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Musiclogic (Post 13767376)
David Nordschows cabs are awesome, you will not find a clearer cab made today.

You should take a drive up to GR february 22-23. There is a music swap meet and several greenboy cabs will be there. IMHO they are some of the clearest bass cabs made.

KJung 01-24-2013 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by rmayer (Post 13767399)
Keep in mind the Aguilar DBs are a rear ported cabinet, so the low end might vary by where it's placed in relation to a wall or corner. I had a DB410 that I hated when I first got it home, until I moved it away from the wall. Now I use the GS212 or one or two GS112s. The GS cabs are front ported, similar to the DNAs. I like their low end sound more than the DBs.

FYI, the port location would not have the impact that you are describing. It really doesn't matter. However, moving any cab away from the wall will typically result in less low end, regardless of port location.

The GS's are very differently voiced, and that is not due to the front porting.

CL400Peavey 01-24-2013 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by KJung (Post 13768532)
FYI, the port location would not have the impact that you are describing. It really doesn't matter. However, moving any cab away from the wall will typically result in less low end, regardless of port location.

The GS's are very differently voiced, and that is not due to the front porting.

Sorry Ken gotta disagree. If a rear ported cab is butted right up against the wall it will negativity effect the lows.

KJung 01-24-2013 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by CL400Peavey (Post 13768549)
Sorry Ken gotta disagree. If a rear ported cab is butted right up against the wall it will negativity effect the lows.

That is a different issue. Yes, if you literally block the port (just like a front ported cab), bad things happen. However, as long as you have the port a few inches from the wall, all is good. Port location doesn't matter, and given that most cabs have the speaker cable input on the back of the cab that sticks out, it is pretty hard to block a port against a wall.

However, you are correct, if you somehow get the rear port blocked (or a front port), that is not good. Moving a rear ported cab 2 feet from the back wall will have virtually the same impact as moving a front ported cab 2 feet from the wall:D

KJung 01-24-2013 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Bassist30 (Post 13767031)
I have a pair of DB12's and when Im away from them with another cabinet I always return as they are something special. I know many say they articulate the mids, but they have an excellent low end.

+1 They are the real deal. Full, usable low end and just an amazingly warm, present midrange. Nice organic top end. Among my favorite cabs period, and two of them stacked will handle almost any gig.

The DB112 stack was always the 'winner' at all the GTG's we had back a few years ago. Perfect cabs for those with traditionally voiced instruments like J and P basses IMO.

A bit heavy and cumbersome to move IMO, but totally killer.

KJung 01-24-2013 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by rmayer (Post 13769678)
I have to disagree. With my DB410 The low end was actually sounding distorted. And when I moved it, it was more than a few inches away from the wall. That tightened up the sound instantly.

That makes no sense, sorry. Port location would not have that impact.

I'm not saying you didn't hear what you heard, but it had NOTHING to do with the port location... impossible.

rmayer 01-24-2013 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by KJung (Post 13769690)
That makes no sense, sorry. Port location would not have that impact.

I'm not saying you didn't hear what you heard, but it had NOTHING to do with the port location... impossible.

In that case, why is my GS212 (or my GS112s) butted right up against a wall with none of the low end distortion that I got from the DBs?


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