Does anybody listen with there ears anymore?

[Electricblue]

I cobbled together a cab out of a 10" guitar speaker an old 6" hifi driver and some old plywood and particle board i found in my shed...

Now this will probably annoy Bill Fitzmaurice very much, but i loved it! Im sure there are standing waves and phase cancellations and all sorts going on, but it just sounded so good?

Why do people listen with figures and numbers rather than with their ears?

[tangentmusic]

Lotta people listen with their eyes too...
If it sounds good to you, bravo to you sir

[greenboy]

Good designers listen with both. When I bring my box over and it pulverizes yours and handles more power and is more flexible, you'll begin to understand why. Usually the process of using additional tools can be a big aid in improving your ear too.

Same as sports. People are watching slowed down video of their athletic performance to fix what is wrong that can't easily be detected otherwise. Then they take what has been noticed by themselves and their trainer and learn new movements, and later they have a better feel for what the most efficent set of movements are, and also often are less prone to injury.

When you are trying to reach certain goals it makes sense to use all the tools that are practical for your situation.

[Electricblue]

true stuff, but if you dont need tonnes of volume, does it really matter too much?

[Febs]

Originally Posted by Electricblue

I cobbled together a cab out of a 10" guitar speaker an old 6" hifi driver and some old plywood and particle board i found in my shed...

Now this will probably annoy Bill Fitzmaurice very much, but i loved it! Im sure there are standing waves and phase cancellations and all sorts going on, but it just sounded so good?

Why do people listen with figures and numbers rather than with their ears?

If you happened to build something that you think sounds good, great. Enjoy it. But the fact that you lucked into a good result doesn't mean there is no merit in understanding the engineering principles involved. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while.

[greenboy]

BEST or GOOD is subjective anyway. If you like what you hear and it's working for your gigs, that's great. But to say other people who are working at a different level than you are are not using their ears, well, that is ignorance.

[ffutterman]

Given all the hooplah and heated debates over brands and styles of amps, instruments, strings, pickups, etc. and what they're made of, maybe a Talkbass Ear Listenin' Club is in order.

[Electricblue]

Originally Posted by greenboy

BEST or GOOD is subjective anyway. If you like what you hear and it's working for your gigs, that's great. But to say other people who are working at a different level than you are are not using their ears, well, that is ignorance.

Ha, thats not what i mean. The people who learn the physics and theorys about builting a cab, will pretty much always end up with good cabs, more power to them. But some will also rule an idea out, just because the figures dont at up

[Zoa]

OP seems kinda trollish. "Tone" is subjective, but many other problems (power handling, phase cancellation, etc.) are not, and these are things that people like greenboy, alexclaber, rpsands, and BFM spend large amounts of their personal time educating us about, despite the hordes of ungrateful posters.
The engineers' models will yield the expected (excellent) results every time, whereas just hoping you get lucky. Plus, they take into account the myriad of problems your cab probably has, you just haven't noticed them.

Posts like this irritate me no end.

[greenboy]

Originally Posted by Electricblue

Ha, thats not what i mean. The people who learn the physics and theorys about builting a cab, will pretty much always end up with good cabs, more power to them. But some will also rule an idea out, just because the figures dont at up

You've been reading all their minds then? ; 0}

Lots of assumptions from the start here.

[billfitzmaurice]

Originally Posted by Electricblue

Why do people listen with figures and numbers rather than with their ears?

I don't. I design speakers with figures and numbers, then I listen to them with my ears.

The advantage of knowing how speakers work is that I can arrive at a design and know exactly what it will sound like before building it. That saves a lot of time, money, wood and drivers.

[IvanMike]

Well this can't go anyplace but downhill. All done.