Driver fell off of the back of the speaker!???

RexNFX79 · #1 06-13-2010, 03:56 PM

I noticed that only one of the two speakers was working on my DB212 and there was something knocking around inside the cab. I pulled out the one that didn't work and the magnet had fallen off of the back of the speaker. I tried putting it back on but the speaker still doesn't work. Any ideas out there?

**B-string** · #2 06-13-2010, 04:08 PM

Chances are good the voice coil was damaged when the magnet fell off. Replace the speaker.

RexNFX79 · #3 06-13-2010, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by B-string

Chances are good the voice coil was damaged when the magnet fell off. Replace the speaker.

What speaker will work with that cab and the existing speaker? I know it's eminence but does anyone know what is compatable?

**B-string** · #4 06-13-2010, 04:13 PM

Eminence 3012 maybe?

Jaco who? · #5 06-13-2010, 04:18 PM

If you want to keep the other one, just contact Aguilar and get a matching replacement. Two different ones in the same box is never going to really work out well.

RexNFX79 · #6 06-13-2010, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaco who?

If you want to keep the other one, just contact Aguilar and get a matching replacement. Two different ones in the same box is never going to really work out well.

Anyone know what that would cost me direct from Aguilar?

Jeff Scott · #7 06-13-2010, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RexNFX79

Anyone know what that would cost me direct from Aguilar?

Sure, Dave Boonshoft knows.

RexNFX79 · #8 06-14-2010, 04:39 PM

E-mailed Aguilar yesterday and had a reply first thing this morning (excellent customer service in my experiences with them). I was told that I could buy a replacement through the Aguilar website.

anderbass · #9 06-14-2010, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RexNFX79

excellent customer service

Oh, after seeing that ^ I thought they were going to replace that defectively manufactured speaker for free including shipping, not just allow you the great privilege of purchasing another...

billfitzmaurice · #10 06-14-2010, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by anderbass

Oh, after seeing that ^ I thought they were going to replace that defectively manufactured speaker for free including shipping, not just allow you the great privilege of purchasing another...

Maybe he asked the wrong question.

Even if defective shipping the old driver back is usually the customer's responsibility.

RexNFX79 · #11 06-15-2010, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by billfitzmaurice

Maybe he asked the wrong question.

Even if defective shipping the old driver back is usually the customer's responsibility.

I bought this particular cabinet used, so I'm not really sure what lead to this defect. Seemed excessive to ask Aguilar to replace it.

billfitzmaurice · #12 06-15-2010, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RexNFX79

I bought this particular cabinet used, so I'm not really sure what lead to this defect. Seemed excessive to ask Aguilar to replace it.

If it's a few years old it's not a defect. The usual reason why a magnet structure separates is the cab was dropped.

hrgiger · #13 06-15-2010, 07:21 PM

Man I've never had or even heard of a Peavey BW magnet falling off. Maybe the other guys should use some bolts in theirs as well...

I mean how are their magnets held on that dropping the cab, etc makes them pop off? Seems like just normal 'rock & roll' transportation around the world etc. would make them fail also...

rbonner · #14 06-15-2010, 09:46 PM

The magnets are epoxied on to the frame. I accidently dropped a speaker on a hard floor in 1971 and busted the magnet off. I went OH S*** and tried to put it back on. I got it over the frame and the thing jumped off the ground and slammed into the voice coil. My reconer was able to position the magnet, reattach and recone, HAHAHAHA

BOB

BassmanPaul · #15 06-16-2010, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by RexNFX79

I bought this particular cabinet used, so I'm not really sure what lead to this defect. Seemed excessive to ask Aguilar to replace it.

I liked this reply. So many seem expect a company to warranty their stuff for ever.

Paul

etoncrow · #16 06-16-2010, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by RexNFX79

... the magnet had fallen off of the back of the speaker....Any ideas out there?

I never had this happen. I did have a drummer fall off backwards from a barn second story hay window in the middle of a song once...he was alright...landed on his head...true story

FuzzBoxVoodoo · #17 06-16-2010, 11:09 AM

That cracks me up to hear that I tried to put it back on,I guess its a natural instinct.

Bassflute · #18 06-16-2010, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RexNFX79

I noticed that only one of the two speakers was working on my DB212 and there was something knocking around inside the cab. I pulled out the one that didn't work and the magnet had fallen off of the back of the speaker. I tried putting it back on but the speaker still doesn't work. Any ideas out there?

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Originally Posted by B-string

Chances are good the voice coil was damaged when the magnet fell off. Replace the speaker.

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Originally Posted by billfitzmaurice

If it's a few years old it's not a defect. The usual reason why a magnet structure separates is the cab was dropped.

speakers are GLUED together. Dropping can make them fall apart, but I was one of the victims of a faulty batch of Trace Elliot speakers from the early 90's in which a LOT of them failed as they went to a more environmentally sensitive glue that just didn't work for long. David at Vancouver Speaker Tech, our resident speaker genius, just glued it back together for about $20.00 and it has worked fine now for the current owner for over 15 years, complete with the original voice coil.

As long as you don't play on it for any length of time after the failure (which you didn't, and it would BARELY work in that condition anyway) it should be a relatively easy job. That was my experience with a great tech, anyway. YMMV.

Good Luck,
Cameron

RexNFX79 · #19 06-16-2010, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bassflute

speakers are GLUED together. Dropping can make them fall apart, but I was one of the victims of a faulty batch of Trace Elliot speakers from the early 90's in which a LOT of them failed as they went to a more environmentally sensitive glue that just didn't work for long. David at Vancouver Speaker Tech, our resident speaker genius, just glued it back together for about $20.00 and it has worked fine now for the current owner for over 15 years, complete with the original voice coil.

As long as you don't play on it for any length of time after the failure (which you didn't, and it would BARELY work in that condition anyway) it should be a relatively easy job. That was my experience with a great tech, anyway. YMMV.

Good Luck,
Cameron

Honestly, chances are that I did play on if for a while in this condition. I didn't notice it until I moved it on Sunday. I had been using my other cab and this one, although played on, had not been moved much lately. After I discovered it, I felt like an idiot for not noticing it sooner but I guess it could have just happened. It has not been dropped or anything since I've had it. My guess is it was like this when I bought it but I'm not sure enough to say with any confidence. Oh well, chalk it up to the price to play!

4Mal · #20 06-16-2010, 05:14 PM

I had that happen to a Bag End I shipped UPS. The recipient flipped out on me... so I paid him off and filed the claim. UPS shipped the cab back to the UPS store where it was shipped from, then paid a claim for the total cost of the cab. The UPS store asked if I wanted the 'scrapped' cabinet back - so I snagged a replacement driver from BE and life was good ... although the entire process required about a month ... I still have the old magnet rolling around in my garage. It makes a wonderful way to collect misc screws & nails from my workbench :~)