Dropped my SVT 2 pro!
So yesterday I was opening the back hatch on my Honda Pilot and before I even knew what happened, my head had fallen over and out onto the parking lot (thank god it didn't land on my feet at least). That's about like dropping it from my waist straight onto the ground! Well I took it inside the venue and plugged it all in and for some reason it all worked perfectly. No idea how I managed to squeak by that accident without having to take it into the Dr. for the 3rd time in a year! I think I can start to say my trust for this head is beginning to come back. Whew! Not sure if this is the right area to post this but I'm doing it anyway for all of you Ampeg owners.
Glad it worked out for you, but I certainly would not have plugged it in until a thorough inspection had been performed.
Be glad it missed your toes! I'm still nursing a couple of blue ones from a mere Traynor YBA-200 incident. The Ampeg could take them clean off. Rock on!
Wheeling my 410 with my svt3 on top of it.seemed like it happened in slow motion.the 410 started to go over then the 3 pro started gaining momentum. It hit the ground SOOO hard.lucky it was in an old Gatorade rack case.powered up -perfect. Tore it apart after the gig.seems fine.I think it sounds better after its accident. Good old ampeg
Yeah I was a little worried about powering it up right away but it worked out. I seriously think it sounds better now too ha ha.
It's likely just fine. Tubes aren't light bulbs, and those heads are built to take an occasional dropping, though you definitely don't want to make a habit of it. I wouldn't give it a second's thought for now.
you're lucky, my Peavey Tour 700 vibrated off the top of my cab and it took 3 months and $170 to fix it.
We rolled my Ranger pickup through a guardrail and down a steep ravine. The cap tore off the first of 3 rolls. My equipment was thrown and bounced 40 feet before hitting a cyclone fence.
My GK1001RB was caked with mud, and had one control broken, plus a lot of abrasions. The control was the DI level, which I never used anyway. I cleaned the amp out, sprayed the scratchy controls and it was good to go.
My Variax 5 string was in 3 pieces...now fixed. My speakers survived but for abrasions.
However, a year later, my GK didn't survive a glass of ice water that fell into the cooling vent. I'll fix it someday.
Anyone bookmark this thread for the "tube amps are fragile" believers? :)
I feel your pain. I had shipping companies drop and damage *TWO* SVT-2 Pro heads in the past month. But rest easy, it's not like dropping them isn't all that common, and they do take a hit very well -- Every time I've shipped one of these things they have been battered in transit.
UPS dropped my first one. Here it is after unboxing:
Fedex dropped my second one. Here it is after unboxing.
Both amps were minty until the shipping companies had their way with them. For some reason the shipping companies like to drop them on their handles, and there's so much weight involved that the handles just get bashed in. Maybe that's because they land on the front panel when they fall off of a conveyor belt because they're front-heavy. It really saddens me that if you're brave enough to ship one of things, it doesn't matter if you chose UPS or Fedex -- either company is guaranteed to screw up your amp. Next time I'll wait to buy something local and drive over to pick it up.
The good news is that even though both of my amps took a really good whack, both of my amps work just fine. But they need new handles and it's a PITB to replace them. Lots of disassembly required.
(Note to self: buy a pair of steel-toed boots.)
We had a heck of a time with producing packaging for them (and other items generally like them).
We finally used pre-molded pieces of that pour-in-place packing foam. We had a station that shot it into molds for each product, with the two liquid components of the polyurethane coming from skid-sized totes (we had a lot of them to make).
So, if you ship (and I am guessing that the last pics were of units packed poorly by ebay sellers for shipment), you might consider the version of that material which you can form yourself... all the material is in a bag which it foams up inside of.
One for bottom front, with space in front, one for top of front, ditto. One more for the back. That way you can actually remove it later, and even maybe re-use it. You want at least 3" in front of the panel, and it has to form down along the panel edge so that there is material between the panel and the box. Keep it out from under handles, and away from knobs, you want no force applied to knobs.
Double-boxing helps (we didn't do that). Put the unit in a box with the foam-up packing, then put that in a second box, with 8 corner pads between the boxes.
One last point..... we found not all the foam-in-place stuff was good. The stuff we went with was tough and rubbery. It took multiple hits and didn't crush.
The less expensive material was more rigid. It would take one hit, but after that it was done, you could squeeze it flat between your hands. . It couldn't take a second hit, and was almost useless for packing.
Sounds like the "Insta-Pak" unit we used to use. Two big drums of A and B with a heated gun. Fun to work with and the only packing that would keep the long capstan shaft of our multi-cart B&C automated players straight in shipping. Getting it on your hands/arms was not so fun though, bonded well with skin. You only used it once without gloves unless your IQ was pretty low.
The first 2 Pro (the one with the really bad bashed-in handles was shipped by Guitar Center. They used a nice stiff double-layer corrugated cardboard box, but it was only a single box, they didn't double box. Even a 2-layer laminated cardboard box won't be sturdy enough to contain a 75 lb item that isn't properly immobilized.
To immobilize the 2 Pro, they did a really half-baked job. They just put 2 bags of expanding polyurethane foam in the bottom of the box, put the amp on top, and put 2 more bags on the top. There wasn't enough mass in the bags to fully immobilize the amp, so the amp was free to wiggle around in the box. It looked like it got dropped off of a conveyor, landing on handles. The box was also rounded-off so it wasn't even square. It had to be dropped at least once.
Actually, I know it was dropped at least once -- I was waiting for the UPS driver with my front door open, and I heard the amp slam onto my concrete front porch stoop. A short conversation followed:
Bob: "Hey, you dropped it."
UPS Driver: "No I didn't."
Bob: "I had the door open, I was sitting on the kitchen, and I heard the box slam on the concrete with a loud thud."
UPS Driver: "But it weights 70 pounds."
Bob: "So now you're admitting that you dropped it?"
UPS Driver: "Sign here."
Bob writes the words: Dropped/Damaged in the signature line.
Of course, UPS decided not to honor a claim due to inadquate packaging, but GC took care of me. Good for them.
The 2nd amp did indeed come from an eBay seller. It arrived in an incredibly sturdy box, and was wrapped in a mile of bubble-wrap. Even that wasn't enough to protect the handles when the amp's full weight came to bear on them. The good news is that only the handles got damaged, the rest of the amp did just fine.
When I pack things that are bulky and heavy like this, I always double box. And I cut up a 4x8 sheet of 1" foam insulation (Home Depot) to provide at least 4 layers of foam around the amp to fully immobilize it in the box. Then I double-box in a large sturdy box from U-Haul that I cut down to size for the application. Packing things properly, I've had boxes punctured, tumbled, etc. with nothing ever damaged inside. All it takes is time, effort and materials. Unfortunately, many people are just too lazy to take the time to package something well, and too cheap to spend $25 on packing materials.
I suppose you could accomplish the same thing with really solid corner bracing, but I like to use extra layers of foam to prevent puncture type injuries. Sometimes I even use a piece of scrap 1/4" plywood between the foam layers to protect the front panel.
Back in the old days, people used to build wooden crates to protect valuable heavy items.
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