EA 112 vs. Epifani 112

Musicbiz60 · #1 07-04-2010, 08:24 PM

I have a 2008 Eden WT 260 which operates at 4ohms. I'd like to match it up to an extrmely small cabinet and am considering an EA WZ 112 or CXL 112 versus an Epifani UL D.I.S.T. 112 or T 112. Any comments would be much appreciated.
Jerry

tombowlus · #2 07-04-2010, 09:46 PM

Those are some very different sounding 1x12's. What is your ideal tone goal? How much volume do you need?

::::BASSIST:::: · #3 07-05-2010, 01:30 AM

Your not going to beat the wizzy 112 for size/weight/volume. An excellent cab. The epi stuff does sound warmer, but the size is the trade-off. The wizzy 112 is 17x17x12 (I think) pretty darn small. You might also want to consider the schroeder 12L which is even smaller than the wizzy. Its truly tiny. Probably about the size of 5 phonebooks. It sounds pretty good, but I would definitely give the edge to the wizzy 112.

lomo · #4 07-05-2010, 05:34 AM

The Epi UL2-12 is much bigger on the bottom than the Wizzy 12 and less pronounced in the mids. Of the new versions, the Wizzy is lighter, smaller and rated as handling less power (200 vs 300 watts, although I'm not sure how much that matters in practical terms).

bassdaddyfive · #5 07-05-2010, 09:49 AM

E A Wizzy 12 M Line. A little heaver than the reg. wizzy 12, but it has a little more bass response range. Wattage is not a big deal unless you play super loud. It's a little bigger too.

Musicbiz60 · #6 07-05-2010, 11:49 AM

You raise an interesting point saying wattage isn't an issue unless you play super loud. But isn't there a significant difference between speakers which can handle 200 vs. 300 watts? I thought there was. A Schroeder can handle much more.
Jerry

bassdaddyfive · #7 07-10-2010, 07:28 AM

Wattage has the least effect on speaker cab tone. The type of cab and driver is way more important than how many watts it can handle. EA speakers can do a lot with less wattage than many speakers on the market. Go with your ears on this one...JMO.

lomo · #8 07-10-2010, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Musicbiz60

You raise an interesting point saying wattage isn't an issue unless you play super loud. But isn't there a significant difference between speakers which can handle 200 vs. 300 watts? I thought there was. A Schroeder can handle much more.
Jerry

The Schro will handle more power but will produce a much more middy tone and more perceived volume......MUCH more (of both mids and volume, that is). The Wizzy is between the Epi (UL2-I have not heard a DIST) and Schro in terms of mids and can produce some satisfying lows for a 12, but it's still a small box 12. If you want big lows at higher volumes, a larger box is needed IME. I have a pair of Wizzies and together they are a very formidable small stack.

unlined4string · #9 07-10-2010, 12:21 PM

I don't know if the OP plays fretless, but I will say that IMO the EA CXL-112 works exceptionally well for fretless in a live band setting. It provides excellent clarity and dispersion on stage, even in a bad sounding room. It's also rather efficient. The fact that the CXL-112 is now discontinued is no reflection on the quality of the design.

Musicbiz60 · #10 07-10-2010, 12:42 PM

I'm a very basic bass player (primarily a guitar player), with not a very refined bass sound preference. I'm getting older and am simply looking for the lighest, smallest cab I can find. Looking for the most bang for the buck among high quality cabs. Many thanks.
Jerry

KJung · #11 07-10-2010, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Musicbiz60

I'm a very basic bass player (primarily a guitar player), with not a very refined bass sound preference. I'm getting older and am simply looking for the lighest, smallest cab I can find. Looking for the most bang for the buck among high quality cabs. Many thanks.
Jerry

In that case, I would consider the Genz Benz Shuttle 112 extension cab... not that expensive, small, light, and a good match with your Eden head (since the Genz heads have a bit of Eden tone in them IMO).

I wouldn't bother with the DIST cab... HUGELY overpriced, and going to 4ohms in a little 112 isn't going to make that much difference.

Passinwind · #12 07-10-2010, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by unlined4string

I don't know if the OP plays fretless, but I will say that IMO the EA CXL-112 works exceptionally well for fretless in a live band setting. It provides excellent clarity and dispersion on stage, even in a bad sounding room. It's also rather efficient. The fact that the CXL-112 is now discontinued is no reflection on the quality of the design.

+1

I've owned an Epi UL112, AG Tri112L, and EA CxL-112. The only one I kept is the EA cab, which I still gig with a ton. All my basses are fretless, FWIW.

lomo · #13 07-10-2010, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Musicbiz60

I'm a very basic bass player (primarily a guitar player), with not a very refined bass sound preference. I'm getting older and am simply looking for the lighest, smallest cab I can find. Looking for the most bang for the buck among high quality cabs. Many thanks.
Jerry

If you want a 12, IMO it's EA, GB Shuttle or Schro (all 30 lbs), then you move to the 35-40 lb range (newer Epi, Aguilar etc). Of those. I prefer the EA Wizzy.

bassdaddyfive · #14 07-12-2010, 07:04 PM

EA wizzy 12 or M-Line 12 are very good cabs for light weight and portable giging. I used to have a EA CLX-12, that was also a outstanding cab. They are no longer in production. IMO and experence I love the wizzy 12's.