Eden 18" Cab. Anyone have experience?

[powmetalbassist]

So I was looking at a used Eden 18" Cab. The owner says it's 400watts at 8ohms, but the eden site says their only 18" model (discontinued) is 500watts @ 8ohms. (Eden D Series Cabinets - D118XL, Discontinued)

Anybody have experience with this cab? I'm gonna find out from him if this is the right model, but anyone know anything about the sound (woofy, bright, low, dirfty, etc.) and durability of Eden 18"

[Bassflute]

Originally Posted by powmetalbassist

So I was looking at a used Eden 18" Cab. The owner says it's 400watts at 8ohms, but the eden site says their only 18" model (discontinued) is 500watts @ 8ohms. (Eden D Series Cabinets - D118XL, Discontinued)

Anybody have experience with this cab? I'm gonna find out from him if this is the right model, but anyone know anything about the sound (woofy, bright, low, dirfty, etc.) and durability of Eden 18"

needs TONS of power, very low, lots of rumble, kind of useless these days with large gig PA support, and can boom like an SOB in the wrong room. Also quite heavy. Pretty much HAVE to use it in a bi-amp rig - full range, you'd be wasting a LOT of power amplifying stuff it can't recreate. Good from 20 hz to barely over 1,000. Eden numbers will indicate otherwise, but they're lying, as usual.

Durable; yes, good sounding; no. Fine if you're playing Reggae or something that requires it; most music doesn't, and in fact it will get in the way and create a lot of trouble for you.

Save your money (and your back) for something useful.

Cheers,
Cameron

[powmetalbassist]

hey man. thanks for the imput. I eneded up buying it, figure if I change my mind I can always flip it for something else. It is the model listed above - 118XL, but doesn't feel like it is 74 lbs. It's big thats for sure, and is a bit boomy, not gonna be able to try it out with my Peavey Tour 700 & TC 210 till early october, and see how it pumps out with the drummer. it's also not 500w RMS as listed on the website, it is 400w rms. hmmm. we'll see how this works out.

[RickenBoogie]

The rating is mostly useless anyway- just pump some bass through it, and when it starts to strain, that's it's limit.

[staindbass]

the frequency response says 42hz- 2.5 khz. i would think it should go lower than 42 hz. thats probably the 3 db down point. maybe its tuned specifically for 4 string basses. there are no driver specs, so its hard to judge. at least its a cast frame.

[JimmyM]

Originally Posted by staindbass

the frequency response says 42hz- 2.5 khz. i would think it should go lower than 42 hz. thats probably the 3 db down point. maybe its tuned specifically for 4 string basses. there are no driver specs, so its hard to judge. at least its a cast frame.

Been my experience with Eden gear that they rate it as optimally as it could possibly look on paper. So if they say 42 hz, I'd bet money that's the 10db down point.

[4-string]

Originally Posted by Bassflute

needs TONS of power, very low, lots of rumble, kind of useless these days with large gig PA support, and can boom like an SOB in the wrong room. Also quite heavy. Pretty much HAVE to use it in a bi-amp rig - full range, you'd be wasting a LOT of power amplifying stuff it can't recreate. Good from 20 hz to barely over 1,000. Eden numbers will indicate otherwise, but they're lying, as usual.

Durable; yes, good sounding; no. Fine if you're playing Reggae or something that requires it; most music doesn't, and in fact it will get in the way and create a lot of trouble for you.

Save your money (and your back) for something useful.

Cheers,
Cameron

That was not my experience at all, though mine was an earlier model I believe (D118?)

I thought it sounded surprisingly good as a standalone, for you tweeter-haters it should be right up your alley. I used one side of a WT-600, never felt it needed lots of power.

It paired up really well with an Ashdown ABM 2x10 combo.

Sold it because I wanted a one cab setup, and it didn't really deliver anything a good 2x10 does better.

[derridiandrift]

I had one as part of a rented backline one time and couldn't get anything out of it that I liked. I found it to be very sloppy and dull sounding. It was paired with a D210XLT, so I just unplugged the 18, rolled off the tweeter on the 210 and got through the show that way. That rig had much better tone without the 18, though I was not able to play as loud as I would have liked.