eden 2x10 cab speaker replacement?

[TheNightLife]

hey guys i just got an eden ported 2x10 cab that has peavey midrange drivers for 20 bucks. i want to swap out the drivers for eminence speakers but im not sure which ones to go with. im looking to make it a 4ohm cab and i run an svtcl head. ive been looking at eminence b102 10" speakers but i have a feeling that 9khz is way too high for what im looking to do. i like the sound of sealed cabse without tweeters but i could live with a ported cab. just no tweeter lol what would you put in the cab? thanks

[will33]

What's your budget like? The best choices are neo ($$$).

[TheNightLife]

Originally Posted by will33

What's your budget like? The best choices are neo ($$$).

the reason i was looking at eminence was because i like them and i get a rather hefty discount on them lol im not against neos at all as long as they sound good lol also keep in mind i got the cab loaed for 20 bucks lol so even if i have to spend 300 on 2 speakers im ok with it.

[lhoward]

I'd contact Eden and get replacement drivers that are designed for that cab. Other drivers may not sound very good. It would be just by chance that it would sound good with midrange drivers in it. Who used it, a guitarist?

But if you really must use an Eminence driver not designed for that cab, then try S2010 or DeltaliteII 2510. I've used the S2010 in cabs I designed for that driver and I get a lot of positive comments on the sound for a small cab and they roll off after 4KHz. And that might work for you. Unless you want to use Eminence's ceramic magnet version driver, note that the neo drivers have gone up substantially in price due to the sharp increase in the cost of neodymium. But I still believe using the original Eden 10's would be the best choice IMHO.

Lloyd Howard

[billfitzmaurice]

Originally Posted by lhoward

I'd contact Eden and get replacement drivers that are designed for that cab. Other drivers may not sound very good.

+1. The exception would be if you understand everything here:
Understanding Loudspeaker Data | Eminence Speaker

And know how to use this:
LinearTeam

[will33]

The basslite and the deltaliteII both work well in typical size boxes.

Basslite maybe a little cheaper, stamped frame, play a bit deeper with a bit less going on in the upper mids. Lower thermal rating which might be a consideration in a small 4ohm cab.

DeltaliteII, cost a little more, cast frame, higher response in the mids/upper mids, little higher thermal rating. Most commercial neo 10's are based on the DLII platform.

I don't see why more people don't use the basslites. Probably the wattage rating and the fact that the deltalites have higher mid response making them sound louder, even though their output is about the same in the lows/lowmids.

You'd have to get accurate volume and tuning measurements of your cab to model and see which is best for you. Don't know what edens are tuned to but some adjustment may be needed there.

[will33]

I doubt eden drivers spec any better than either of the emi. neo's, probably not as good. They might not cost quite as much as neo does now but I'll bet they'd be expensive for what they really are.

[TheNightLife]

Originally Posted by lhoward

I'd contact Eden and get replacement drivers that are designed for that cab. Other drivers may not sound very good. It would be just by chance that it would sound good with midrange drivers in it. Who used it, a guitarist?

But if you really must use an Eminence driver not designed for that cab, then try S2010 or DeltaliteII 2510. I've used the S2010 in cabs I designed for that driver and I get a lot of positive comments on the sound for a small cab and they roll off after 4KHz. And that might work for you. Unless you want to use Eminence's ceramic magnet version driver, note that the neo drivers have gone up substantially in price due to the sharp increase in the cost of neodymium. But I still believe using the original Eden 10's would be the best choice IMHO.

Lloyd Howard

the person who had before me was using it with an eden 215 cab and an svt 4 pro it actually sounded awesome when combined but sepertely the cabs sounded terrible lol and this cab has 0 bass response so i need to change the speakers.

i know eden speakers would be the best choice but im not a fan of edens in the first place so the last thing i want to do is put eden speakers back into it.

[will33]

He was likely biamping it with the 215 carrying the lows.

[billfitzmaurice]

Originally Posted by will33

He was likely biamping it with the 215 carrying the lows.

+1. Eden tens have no less low end response than the average fifteen, though some of their cabs tend are too small to let them go as low as they're capable of. I have a measured response chart of a D410XLT that shows 95dB sensitivity at 50Hz.

[will33]

Originally Posted by billfitzmaurice

+1. Eden tens have no less low end response than the average fifteen, though some of their cabs tend are too small to let them go as low as they're capable of. I have a measured response chart of a D410XLT that shows 95dB sensitivity at 50Hz.

I've always found them to be boomy with their topend rolling off to early. Of course not much for scientific measurement equipment here.

[billfitzmaurice]

Originally Posted by will33

I've always found them to be boomy with their topend rolling off to early. Of course not much for scientific measurement equipment here.

Boom is usually the result of a cab too small for the drivers within.

[TheNightLife]

Any other reccomenndations on speakers?

[spike42]

Offered for your review - a similar thread that I started awhile ago:

Eden D210T Speaker Swap?

[TheNightLife]

Awesome. Thank you