Electricamp power unit(kt88) OR Verellen Meatsmoke?

[jensdandanell]

HI !

Long time since i've posted anything here. But i really need your guys help right now

So i have decided to buy myself a new amplifier.
I want it to be the loudest TUBE-thing i the world. Right now i'm playing a SUNN Model T and a SUNN Coliseum.
And believe it of not, i really need more sonic volume.

I play a lot of down-tempo psychedelic trance stoner-doom.
Bands like Sleep, Acid King, Om, Suma, Ufomammut, bongzilla, Sloath and Toner Low are big heroes to me.

I have found two amps that i'm in love with:

The Electricamp Power unit 180watt.
Well, it's a freakin' ELECTRICAMP! I had a chance of hearing it full throttle when Ufomammut played a show i cph not so long ago. And i have never heard anything like it! And i have always loved ufomammut's basstones.
Anybody who owns one?

And the Verellen 'Meatsmoke' 300watt.
It just looks like a beast that would suit my needs.
300watt kt120. I have heard lots of great things about these amplifiers, also from people who play a lot of the same things as me. And from what i hear on the few clips out there -This might be it

So what do you guys think?
Why one over the other? What should be my concerns?
And do anybody know some other amplifiers that deliver the same things? or maybe louder?

Thanks and cheers from Denmark!

Ps. I have giving up my hunt in finding a Fender 400ps

[NKBassman]

I had Verellen and Electric on the brain this afternoon as well. I've never played anything by either company, but based on reputation alone I think you'd be good with either.

I wish I had enough $$$$ to even have the problem of trying to pick between the two.

[Mr. Foxen]

Matamp: midwestmatamp.com

I think he has one in stock, but not spoke to him in a while. Matamp will stay a lot cleaner longer than the Electric, not sure about the Verellen, so you keep your low end, but when you do hit the breakup, it is awesome, and it still has a lot more to give.

Edit: Wait, Denmark, So many more options in Europe, actual Matamp: http://matamp.co.uk/

[jensdandanell]

So the matamp would have more headroom than the EA?
I gotta be this one you are talking about, right? Matamp® GT200 Bass Guitar Amplifier - Matamp® Bass Amplification - Welcome to the official MATAMP Amplification Factory Website
I've never come across any good soundclips of a matamp basshead. How does it compere in sounds?

- I just sold at big mixing console. So gear-money are good these days

[bassboysam]

In my opinion and based on all of the Electric Amp samples I have heard ,compared to my Matamp, the Matamp is cleaner and more clear. They claim the GT200 can do 200 watts before clipping, I believe it.

Not the most optimum recordings but here are some clips of my matamp GT200

Almost all the dirt in the sound is from fuzz pedals.

MONOBROW - MonoBrain - YouTube

MONOBROW - Buried in the Backyard - YouTube

MONOBROW - Store High In Transit (rehearsal space version) - YouTube

0923 City of Angles and the Cosmic Nod by the_brow on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free

0524 Moustache by mon.oh.brau on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free

0524 Radio by mon.oh.brau on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free

Being in Europe, it would probably be a lot cheaper to go Matamp instead of Electric.

[Mr. Foxen]

Originally Posted by jensdandanell

So the matamp would have more headroom than the EA?
I gotta be this one you are talking about, right? Matamp® GT200 Bass Guitar Amplifier - Matamp® Bass Amplification - Welcome to the official MATAMP Amplification Factory Website
I've never come across any good soundclips of a matamp basshead. How does it compere in sounds?

- I just sold at big mixing console. So gear-money are good these days

It is much less coloured by default, than the Electric, which is made to be a big dirty fuzz monster. Main thing is, if you call and talk to Matamp about the sound you want, you can have the amp custom made to suit, bit more preamp gain options is prob what you are after, but thats pretty much cause I'm assigning you a cliche based on what your said. Probably best not mentioning Electric though, Jeff doesn't need to be as polite about them as we do on this forum. Matamp can do a 400w head by special order, not sure that is fancy people only though.

[Clammy]

You may also want to check out a Marshall VBA 400. 400 watts of tube yumminess!

Cheers!

[BurningSkies]

The loudest tube thing?

You should probably be looking for a used Phil Jones T-500. Listed for $10K new, but it boasted 650 'tooob watts'.

[Mr. Foxen]

Dinky, real men rock Champ amps:



1,0000w, or, if you don't want loads of valves with your 1000w, use big valves:

[Alex1984]

The MatAmp seems pretty sweet to me, Verellen Meatsmoke could be nice too! Ever considered a vintage SVT or Heritage series SVT-CL?

[Mr. Foxen]

Actually, I think I know of some Sound Ciy 200s going, they'll need a teching to be tip top, but should come in under £k.

[jensdandanell]

Originally Posted by bassboysam

In my opinion and based on all of the Electric Amp samples I have heard ,compared to my Matamp, the Matamp is cleaner and more clear. They claim the GT200 can do 200 watts before clipping, I believe it.

Not the most optimum recordings but here are some clips of my matamp GT200

Almost all the dirt in the sound is from fuzz pedals.

MONOBROW - MonoBrain - YouTube

MONOBROW - Buried in the Backyard - YouTube

MONOBROW - Store High In Transit (rehearsal space version) - YouTube

0923 City of Angles and the Cosmic Nod by the_brow on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free

0524 Moustache by mon.oh.brau on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free

0524 Radio by mon.oh.brau on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free

Being in Europe, it would probably be a lot cheaper to go Matamp instead of Electric.

Thanks but it's a little hard to really hear the amp on most of the tunes(Great tunes, though. Props). But it does seem cleaner.

[jensdandanell]

Originally Posted by Mr. Foxen

It is much less coloured by default, than the Electric, which is made to be a big dirty fuzz monster. Main thing is, if you call and talk to Matamp about the sound you want, you can have the amp custom made to suit, bit more preamp gain options is prob what you are after, but thats pretty much cause I'm assigning you a cliche based on what your said. Probably best not mentioning Electric though, Jeff doesn't need to be as polite about them as we do on this forum. Matamp can do a 400w head by special order, not sure that is fancy people only though.

come again, what cliche?

And about the whole EA/matamp thing. Why shouldn't i mention EA? How does matamp compere in prices?

[jensdandanell]

Originally Posted by BurningSkies

The loudest tube thing?

You should probably be looking for a used Phil Jones T-500. Listed for $10K new, but it boasted 650 'tooob watts'.

Tempting, but then i'll just buy four meatsmokes, haha

If only gear-money was that good

[jensdandanell]

Originally Posted by Mr. Foxen

Dinky, real men rock Champ amps:



1,0000w, or, if you don't want loads of valves with your 1000w, use big valves:

Oh. Don't think i haven't s´considered emailing him.
That thing is insane.

Does anyone know how much it cost?

[Mr. Foxen]

Originally Posted by jensdandanell

come again, what cliche?

That you want the big fuzzy driven valve amp tone, Matamps are totally capable of big clean transparent bass too.

Originally Posted by jensdandanell

And about the whole EA/matamp thing. Why shouldn't i mention EA? How does matamp compere in prices?

Don't mention EA, because Jeff will get very angry, and probably shout at you a lot with swearing and rudeness for bringing the subject up. Jeff is a Yorkshireman, and not censored like this board is. Matamp prices are in £ Stirling, EA prices are kind of high for what you get, and the wait times are silly because the actual manufacture is outsourced. If you really wanna explaination of the whole Electric Matamp thing, PM, cause it isn't very polite, and a lot of stuff on the internet is written in a sort of recogniseable style, and not very balance, or true.

Edit: Probably best steer clear of mentioning Orange too, talk tones, not brands.

[daychris]

I might know something about the Electrics....
Check out some of my non-doom tones:
Chemical Valley
They stay pretty clean up to a considerable volume. For what I do I prefer the Volume Unit to the Power Unit. I have a Master Volume Unit in production currently for "low" volume gigs. In comparison to my Mesa 400+ they are dirtier but louder by far, and they have a thicker low mid presence. I absolutely love these amps!!!!
Hope this helps.
c.

[Sartori]

Between the two, I'd prefer the Verellen, but both would be good.

Since you're in Europe, a Matamp would probably be cheaper than either one. Or you could get that Ashdown 427 watt monster.

[VerellenAmps]

Hey jensdandanell! Thanks for considering us in your amp hunt! Please know that we'll ship anywhere, and if the stock MEAT SMOKE isn't quite what you're looking for, we can tweak or modify the base design to suit your needs. We're very very happy to answer any questions you might have. Thanks!

VerellenAmplifiers@Live.com.

[Vanni]

Originally Posted by daychris

I might know something about the Electrics....
Check out some of my non-doom tones:
Chemical Valley
They stay pretty clean up to a considerable volume. For what I do I prefer the Volume Unit to the Power Unit. I have a Master Volume Unit in production currently for "low" volume gigs. In comparison to my Mesa 400+ they are dirtier but louder by far, and they have a thicker low mid presence. I absolutely love these amps!!!!
Hope this helps.
c.

wow!