Epifani cabs: differences between S1 and SII?

[mustbampeg]

Hello, i just bought a UL 4x10 S1 and was just wondering what the differences are, if any?
Sound, tone, weight, and reliabilty?

I purchased from a fellow TB'er, (thanks DCR!!)
I havent received the cab yet, but the money is on the way, so hopefully, ill get it sometime next week.

Anyways, I was just curious about the differences,
TIA

Randy

[Crockettnj]

I dont own either, but I think I recall SI being B&C drivers and SII being eminence drivers.

Also recall comments on here of subtle tonal difference, and that they got heavier as time when on, but I dont know if that was wood, design, or drier related. the earlier UL's were italian poplar, which was light stuff. Newer ones???

I know that the UL 112 SI I played through briefly was SWEET.

Nice grab, nice cab.

[mustbampeg]

anybody else with some insight?

[Mr. Majestic]

I owned a S1 410 for quite a while and it flat out kicked like a mule. My good friend Stacey has the S2 410, and it sounded huge, too. But for me, and him, the S1 was more appealing. We were able to A/B them and prefered the S1.

[KJung]

Originally Posted by Mr. Majestic

I owned a S1 410 for quite a while and it flat out kicked like a mule. My good friend Stacey has the S2 410, and it sounded huge, too. But for me, and him, the S1 was more appealing. We were able to A/B them and prefered the S1.

+1 The two versions of the cab are quite similar, but the S1 has a touch more upper mid growl and a slightly bigger low end than the SII, due to the driver differencer (B&C's in the S1, Eminence in the SII's).

However, as you say, very subtle. I used both and in our many GTG comparisons, you could only really tell the difference listening very closely.

The newer SII cabs are quite a bit heavier, but sound the same as the earlier SII's.

All sound good, and very slight EQ can make each one sound like the other IMO and lots of IME.

[Jim Carr]

I find that my 4 ohm S1 UL410 plays very nicely with either my S2 UL210 or my NYC t210. Both 210 cabs are 8 ohms. I also find that combining both 210 cabs has noticeably more low end than the UL410 alone. BTW, none of this seems problematic, LOL.

[KJung]

Originally Posted by Jim Carr

I find that my 4 ohm S1 UL410 plays very nicely with either my S2 UL210 or my NYC t210. Both 210 cabs are 8 ohms. I also find that combining both 210 cabs has noticeably more low end than the UL410 alone. BTW, none of this seems problematic, LOL.

The UL210 has more internal volume than 'half of a 410UL' and a lower tuning also, so two of them will have a more extended low and and even less perceived midrange than the 410UL. Too much of a good thing for my taste IME.