ex TC RH450 or RH750 owners

bassclef04 · #1 12-04-2011, 10:22 PM

I currently own The TC RH750, I'm looking to try something new maybe something a little cleaner and EQ friendly but at the same time I'm hooked on the TC features. For those who owned the TC amps and moved on to something else what did you get and why?

Baird6869 · #2 12-04-2011, 10:35 PM

i still have my RH450, but my main amp is now a Mesa M9 Carbine. I love the Mesa's tone, punch, EQ options and it has unbelievable headroom over the TC..... and it cuts much better than the TC...

The RH450 isn't loud enough for my gigs unless I bring a 4x10 cab.

The only thing I miss about the TC is the built in tuner and weight.

goran · #3 12-06-2011, 03:51 AM

Moved from RH450 to EBS Fafner and haven't looked back.

RH450 didn't sound good to me and those plastic knobs were just waiting for a disaster. Fafner, although not that loud, just works better for me. More meat, clarity to the tone, more of everything. It simply plays a lot better!

CrackBass · #4 12-06-2011, 06:50 AM

I was as mad at TC as anyone on the board and I really wanted to switch, I thought seriously about going back to a GK or trying a Markbass. However, I just couldn't bring myself to give up my RH450. As far as getting a cleaner sound from it, it's in there but you have to eq it different than say and eden or an swr. The bands can have considerable overlap, and if you have the frequencies set close, moderate boosting can cause the dirtyness that you're probably hearing. (Mostly in the low mids) It took me a while to figure out how the different eq bands interact with each other, but there are whole other worlds of sounds in there. You just have to search in unlikely places. If you treat the interface like an SWR400 or an eden WT and eq accordingly, you won't get the same results. Some players don't notice the difference probably because they use minimal or no eq. Look up the settings thread and get a couple of the settings that Ken uses.

bassclef04 · #5 12-06-2011, 07:19 AM

I'm definitely not use to digging in some much into an amp EQ to get the tone I want, but I've gotten some real good modern tone especially for slap but something about the low end that bothers me a bit. I can say my TC RH750 sounds great in a band mix maybe I'm trying to get my stage sound in my living room lol.

Fishheadjoe · #6 12-06-2011, 08:52 AM

Thanks for starting this thread... I've been having some issues with some nasty mid grind, when giving the amp a push... so much so, that my band has noticed the wooly sound and wondered what was going on!
I had a gig a couple of weeks back and was really unhappy with my stage sound. Unfortunately, given time restraints, I was not able to muck around with the eq to get a "better" sound.
I have since begun thinking that perhaps this amp is not right for me, so this thread will be one that I will watch...
FIshheadjoe

singlemalt · #7 12-06-2011, 09:06 AM

I gave the 750 a shot, and returned it.

It sure made me appreciate the GK 1001 I've had for the last four years.

I'm still looking to try new amps, the whole small and light thing is intriguing, and the TC had so many features I really liked. It was a very slick package.

I will be taking a good look at the Carvin 1500, but the idea of exchanging one two space rack item for another isn't that compelling. And all those spiffy TC features like presets, aux in, headphone, ectect in the Mac like pretty package aren't what Carvin does.

I'm still looking

will33 · #8 12-06-2011, 09:14 AM

Aren't these things supposed to somewhat mimick a tube type amp when pushed? Perhaps adjust the gain structure in your chain if possible so you don't have to turn the amp up to the grit zone? Just guessing here. Good points about eq interaction and overlap.

CrackBass · #9 12-06-2011, 09:14 AM

When I used to use an 800rb I would eq something like bass 2ish oclock, low mid 3-4 oclock, hi mid flat to small cut, high flat to small boost. If you boost the two lower bands on the rh450 you won't get to the same place. At first I set the bass band down to 70hz and the low mid where I thought 250hz was then I boosted my eq to where I was used to. The problem is that the overlap between the two bands gives a real unnatural hump smoewhere between the two bands. The amplitude of the hump tends to overdrive certain frequencies just the same as if you had the gain set too high. This can sound good or bad depending on what you like, but if you're after clean this aint it. Try raising the bass band frequency and only boosting the bass band while leaving the low mid alone. This is a good starting point that worked for me to tune in this head, YRMV.

bassclef04 · #10 12-06-2011, 09:31 AM

Do you cut the low mids or keep it flat?

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Originally Posted by CrackBass

When I used to use an 800rb I would eq something like bass 2ish oclock, low mid 3-4 oclock, hi mid flat to small cut, high flat to small boost. If you boost the two lower bands on the rh450 you won't get to the same place. At first I set the bass band down to 70hz and the low mid where I thought 250hz was then I boosted my eq to where I was used to. The problem is that the overlap between the two bands gives a real unnatural hump smoewhere between the two bands. The amplitude of the hump tends to overdrive certain frequencies just the same as if you had the gain set too high. This can sound good or bad depending on what you like, but if you're after clean this aint it. Try raising the bass band frequency and only boosting the bass band while leaving the low mid alone. This is a good starting point that worked for me to tune in this head, YRMV.

bassclef04 · #11 12-06-2011, 09:39 AM

I'm beginning to think I am not a tube or tube emulator guy, before the TC RH750 I owned the Genz Streamliner, at first I was lost on how to EQ my sound but after a while I finally got some tones l liked but in the end I sold it and now I have the rh750 same problem but after sometime got some tones I like. I'm holding on to the RH750 more so for the awesome features.

CrackBass · #12 12-06-2011, 09:44 AM

Within 2 clicks of flat either way. I can't remember off hand where I set the frequency. I just played around with it. I think I said previously that there is a settings thread. Look up some of the settings by other users, it kind of helps you figure out where to look for the settings that will make you happy, and gives you a feel for how the head operates.

bassclef04 · #13 12-07-2011, 11:10 AM

Thanks for the info Crackbass! I've been playing around with the EQ and I am getting good results. I'm not a big fan of the low mid knob especially like you said boosting the lows and low mids definitely overlap each other so I end up cutting a lot of low mids and the results put a smile on my face.

dustinfennessey · #14 12-07-2011, 11:18 AM

I switched from TC Electronic to Ashdown and have beet stoked ever since. Bought myself a Little Bastard for smaller gigs and recording and a Ashdown ABM Evo III 210 Combo for bigger gigs. The Little Bastard is great, but I actually prefer the combo- has a built in compressor/octaves effect, isn't too heavy, and looks freaking sweet.

Basstardus · #15 12-10-2011, 04:03 PM

hi, i hope i'm posting this in the right thread, i would want to know, cause you all are EX owners, for how much $ have you sold your RH450?
i'm looking to buy one, but don't have enough money for a new one, and i don't want to part with my current amp.
PM please
thank you

Daniel Piper · #16 12-10-2011, 07:36 PM

I lovethe TC features, but I too have struggled a little with the voicing of the low end. Even with EQing in more lows with the para, it just doesn't go subterranean. YMMV

mtb777 · #17 12-13-2011, 11:30 PM

Has anyone tried linking their rig to a powered or unpowered 18" sub? I don't have a TC rig yet but usually run all my stuff at most of my lower volume gigs through a nice little powered PA monitor with an 8 or 10 and my pedal board to get some barky nice fretless or clear NS ERB tones and have added a powered Sub with an 18 into the mix and whalah, big bottom at any volume with the raspy bark in the upper ranges. Louder gigs go through the board and system and our in-ears.
Any thoughts about this matchup with an RH450 or RH750 to get some fatness to go with the rest of the range.

vin*tone · #18 12-14-2011, 12:32 AM

^^ I've never tried anything like that - personally I've never found the RH450 amp to be lacking in bass in a live setting. I'm usually needing to dial it down to control low end and boominess and punch through in a band mix.

(playing through a Berg HS410... This is with the bass dialed down about 4 notches believe it or not...)---> THE BALLARAT SKA ORCHESTRA - Feel Like Jumping (live) - YouTube

Of course if you are after big subs, there might be better options on the market.

DuShauh · #19 12-14-2011, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by vin*tone

^^ I've never tried anything like that - personally I've never found the RH450 amp to be lacking in bass in a live setting. I'm usually needing to dial it down to control low end and boominess and punch through in a band mix.

(playing through a Berg HS410... This is with the bass dialed down about 4 notches believe it or not...)---> THE BALLARAT SKA ORCHESTRA - Feel Like Jumping (live) - YouTube

Of course if you are after big subs, there might be better options on the market.

I apologize for derailing the thread...But,

I really dig the sound of that video clip. How was that recorded ? (equipment-wise)

GrowlerBox · #20 12-14-2011, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by vin*tone

(playing through a Berg HS410... This is with the bass dialed down about 4 notches believe it or not...)---> THE BALLARAT SKA ORCHESTRA - Feel Like Jumping (live) - YouTube

Nice one, Vinnie! Solid feel, great tone. Really versatile head, I think, despite the overlying vintage sound.