fEarful layouts

[ThunderousFunk]

If I already have a cab that I wanna turn into a fEarful, is there a site/page that has layouts of speaker configurations, and schematics for it? I have searched, and seen alt of nice cabs, but didn't find much, and wonder what I can do with my huge cab.

[BurningSkies]

If it wasn't born a fEarful, it will never be a fEarful. You can of course, do your best to get nEarful...

[ThunderousFunk]

Oh ok. Then I guess my Warmoth Telecaster isn't really a Fender? I already assumed that(thanks for the 0.02).

[Crockettnj]

But Burning sky is right. The fearful is a specific cab, designed nicely from bottom up.

HAd you asked how you could modify an existing cab to be a Woofer + Mid, or a 3 way W/M/T then the response would be different.

Assuming you meant the latter, anyone responding will need more specifics to be of any help.

So, what have you got, and what are you trying to do?

[Foz]

Originally Posted by ThunderousFunk

Oh ok. Then I guess my Warmoth Telecaster isn't really a Fender? I already assumed that(thanks for the 0.02).

No... its more like a hat full of dogshit aint a tin of shoe polish.

Did you know that?

[Jaco who?]

http://www.diyaudioandvideo.com/Calculator/XOver/
http://www.bcae1.com/xoorder.htm
http://colomar.com/Shavano/4x12wiring.html
http://www.eminence.com/resources/resources.asp

Enough attitude around here to go around, isn't there? Hope you find these helpful.

[BurningSkies]

Once upon a time, there was a boy. He lived in the middle of nowhere, in a cabin in the woods. The cabin must have had a BIG mouse problem, because mousetraps were the boy's passion. Well, more specifically, building the worlds BEST mousetrap was really his passion. He'd used almost every single trap that was commercially available, and they all were OK but not great. They did about 75% of the job but weren't perfect.

The boy spent a lot of time thinking about mousetraps and did a lot of research. He read lots of books dealing with mice, the problems involved in trapping them, all of the technology involved in the process...he even talked to like-minded mousetrap enthusiasts and a few generous professionals.

He realized that the answer wasn't to modify or change any of the 'standard' traps on the market today...those were compromised by commercial concerns, how the traps looked, what people expected them to look like or work, or the whims of aggressive accountants.

...so, he designed a very special mousetrap from the ground up. He picked a few of the best mousetrap components that modern technology could provide and then carefully figured out all the details to make those parts work to their best and catch WAAAAAY more mice. He and a few friends scrutinized ALL the details and worked to make what was a very unique and special trap. It was unlike any production mousetrap!

Next the boy did something else. Instead of going into business for himself he GAVE the plans to the uber-trap away. He put them up on line then proceeded to support those plans with unprecedented commentary, help and troubleshooting. He helped create a database of why and how the mousetrap functioned so well and worked to educate a whole community of trappers.

Unfortunately, many of the trappers didn't really get it. They spent the next few years picking part the mousetrap, trying to find ways to compromise the design, could they do it cheaper? Could they do it easier? So what if it wouldn't work as well...I mean it was sort of the same thing, right? Many others got so caught up in the details that they wrung their hands and gave great shouts of despair as they debated what color the wire they used in their traps or other unimportant details.

...The boy grew tired of the second guessing, liberty taking and compromises to his mousetrap. He walked away and left the rest of the trappers to squabble with each other.

[playerunk]

Originally Posted by BurningSkies

Once upon a time, there was a boy. He lived in the middle of nowhere, in a cabin in the woods. The cabin must have had a BIG mouse problem, because mousetraps were the boy's passion. Well, more specifically, building the worlds BEST mousetrap was really his passion. He'd used almost every single trap that was commercially available, and they all were OK but not great. They did about 75% of the job but weren't perfect.

The boy spent a lot of time thinking about mousetraps and did a lot of research. He read lots of books dealing with mice, the problems involved in trapping them, all of the technology involved in the process...he even talked to like-minded mousetrap enthusiasts and a few generous professionals.

He realized that the answer wasn't to modify or change any of the 'standard' traps on the market today...those were compromised by commercial concerns, how the traps looked, what people expected them to look like or work, or the whims of aggressive accountants.

...so, he designed a very special mousetrap from the ground up. He picked a few of the best mousetrap components that modern technology could provide and then carefully figured out all the details to make those parts work to their best and catch WAAAAAY more mice. He and a few friends scrutinized ALL the details and worked to make what was a very unique and special trap. It was unlike any production mousetrap!

Next the boy did something else. Instead of going into business for himself he GAVE the plans to the uber-trap away. He put them up on line then proceeded to support those plans with unprecedented commentary, help and troubleshooting. He helped create a database of why and how the mousetrap functioned so well and worked to educate a whole community of trappers.

Unfortunately, many of the trappers didn't really get it. They spent the next few years picking part the mousetrap, trying to find ways to compromise the design, could they do it cheaper? Could they do it easier? So what if it wouldn't work as well...I mean it was sort of the same thing, right? Many others got so caught up in the details that they wrung their hands and gave great shouts of despair as they debated what color the wire they used in their traps or other unimportant details.

...The boy grew tired of the second guessing, liberty taking and compromises to his mousetrap. He walked away and left the rest of the trappers to squabble with each other.

what a great story.. but i still dont know what cable to use..i hear |_/\\//\ is good

[rpsands]

Bs, your post is Bs

People saw the awesome mousetrap and tried to adapt aspects of that mousetrap to improve other mousetraps. Nothing wrong with that.

[Passinwind]

Originally Posted by BurningSkies

Once upon a time, there was a boy. He lived in the middle of nowhere, in a cabin in the woods...

Beautiful, Bill!

[BurningSkies]

Originally Posted by rpsands

Bs, your post is Bs

People saw the awesome mousetrap and tried to adapt aspects of that mousetrap to improve other mousetraps. Nothing wrong with that.

Yes, but these 'improved' traps still aren't the same thing as the one that the boy designed, are they?

They may get a step or two closer but they'll never be as nEar the same level of performance.

[BurningSkies]

Originally Posted by Passinwind

Beautiful, Bill!

Might as well have some fun.

[Passinwind]

Originally Posted by ThunderousFunk

If I already have a cab that I wanna turn into a fEarful, is there a site/page that has layouts of speaker configurations, and schematics for it? I have searched, and seen alt of nice cabs, but didn't find much, and wonder what I can do with my huge cab.

You could always start with the Amps Forum FAQ section on DIY cab building here.

If you post all the relevant details on your existing cab there's a decent chance that a few TB'ers will chip in some ideas where to go with it. In general, the advice is likely to be to sell what you have and buy or build what you actually want though...

[rpsands]

There are a few cabs out there that would convert to nEarfuls very easily. Most of those old Peavey 4-5cf 115BW cabs are fantastic candidates for a jigsaw, a stock crossover, an Alphalite 6cbmr, and a 3015LF.

[ThunderousFunk]

Yes, I do agree with all of you in your advice, and "little quips". As painful as they were to hear, I do understand it all. The cab is 5'h x2.5w x2'd. I figured, eventhough it wasn't a true fEarful, I could've benefited from some of the concepts. It was just a thought. But considering I get told stories and "sayings", maybe it wasn't meant to be in the first place.

[zaubertuba]

FWIW, I had a couple of existing cabinets around that I had built way back in high school wood shop (like, 22-some years ago), that I was thinking of adapting to a fEarful.

Seeing the difficulties in approximating volume/port design, though, I decided to just build a fEarful from scratch. Cabinet construction cost in and of itself is very low. I just finished cutting out the pieces.

Keep in mind, I had the means to triple my build cost (the fEarful, while very cost-effective, uses a pretty premium woofer and parts count is higher than the simple 2 x 10" or 10 +1 designs I was initially considering). If you're trying to go dirt cheap, what Passinwind suggests may be a good route. My setup ended up being so Hifi, though, that I decided I'd better use a well-developed design for this critical part of my rig.

[BurningSkies]

Originally Posted by ThunderousFunk

Yes, I do agree with all of you in your advice, and "little quips". As painful as they were to hear, I do understand it all. The cab is 5'h x2.5w x2'd. I figured, eventhough it wasn't a true fEarful, I could've benefited from some of the concepts. It was just a thought. But considering I get told stories and "sayings", maybe it wasn't meant to be in the first place.

Start by figuring out the interior volume of the cab you have now. See how close it gets to the sweetspot for a 3015LF or 3012LF. Check to see that the cab also has room for a sealed 6" driver and also the realestate for the correct porting. These things will tell you if you're in the ballpark for a 12/6 or 15/6 2 way speaker cab.

[ThunderousFunk]

Ok, but with the pics I've seen, that's only a single 12" or 15" with that much cab?

[BassmanPaul]

Originally Posted by ThunderousFunk

Ok, but with the pics I've seen, that's only a single 12" or 15" with that much cab?

Sometime proper speaker design can be a pain in the rear!

The laws of physics can't be broken.

Paul

[kesslari]

You know the cab internal dimensions. The specs and requirements for the 3015LF and 3012LF are published.

Maybe you can do a 215 or 212 - nobody here can tell you. You'll need to model the internal cab volume and see how much space is there vs. how much space the speaker(s) need.