Fearful thread part 15 (/6?)

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^ That is funny.

[esa372]

Originally Posted by basssalad

[The sound man] can make or break your gig. Just like the bartender and wait staff, if you treat them well it will greatly aid in your return to the venue!

That's a two way street...

If the staff treats the performers right, it will greatly aid in a return performance, as well.

[cableguy]

Originally Posted by Lonnybass

During soundcheck at my last gig, the sound guy asked me to turn my stage volume down...clearly due to the massive intimidating Fearfulness of my dual 15/6s.

I relished the opportunity to tell him that I hadn't yet turned my power amp on.

Lonnybass

That happened the 1st time I used my 12/6 for worship. I hadn't fired it up in a big room before so before most of the team came in I was playing about as loudcas I could get it. It sounded AWESOME! Well the guitarist walked in about that time and told the soundguy to turn me down. You should have seen his face when he was told the PA was off. Whern we soundchecked I turned my power amp off since I usually go direct. He complained about me being too loud most of the practice. Finally I told him to talk to the soundman, my amp has been off since we started the soundcheck. Still cracks me up, I was totally in his head all night.....

[Sundogue]

I've had similar experiences...

I played with an acoustic guitarist who had no idea how to handle the feedback from his guitar. He kept telling me to turn down, even to the point where he dissed me to the crowd (through the PA). Long before he even did that, I had already turned my amp OFF and was playing "air bass". He was quite embarrassed to find out all that low end was just his guitar feeding back where no one could hear.

Conversely...

Once during an outdoor gig soundcheck one of the guitarists in a VERY loud band I played in at the time was out in front with his wireless and he asked the sound guy to turn me up "just a tad more" in the PA.

I wasn't even put into the PA at that point. It was all just my fEARful 15/6 playing with the guitars and drummer (who were all in the PA at the time).

There is something to having a certain rig, that long before a note is struck, they are already "fearful" of what my bass is going to be like.

[steelin4u]

Accidentally played non bridged, so 275 watts. Thought it was 800 watts, and it hung well in a large space. It was my first gig out with it, so I can't even imagine if I pushed it with 800...wow.

[dhomer]

Originally Posted by steelin4u

Accidentally played non bridged, so 275 watts. Thought it was 800 watts, and it hung well in a large space. It was my first gig out with it, so I can't even imagine if I pushed it with 800...wow.

That cab looks familiar....

[CL400Peavey]

Originally Posted by steelin4u

Accidentally played non bridged, so 275 watts. Thought it was 800 watts, and it hung well in a large space. It was my first gig out with it, so I can't even imagine if I pushed it with 800...wow.

And this is great support to the claim that while these cabs can make use of big power, they will hang in there if you are not. I was "only" hitting my '66 with 350 watt amp at a jam session, and it was more than enough to bury a loud drummer.

[dukeorock]

Originally Posted by CL400Peavey

And this is great support to the claim that while these cabs can make use of big power, they will hang in there if you are not. I was "only" hitting my '66 with 350 watt amp at a jam session, and it was more than enough to bury a loud drummer.

I've hit my cabs with gobs of power and occasionally with very little and they always sound great. The thing about hitting em with the big watts is you can get crazy amounts of low end without eating up all the amps headroom, if that's a sound you're going for. I have a couple buddies who use 3,000 watt power amps with their 1515/66's and that kind of clean headroom does indeed have its own magic. I typically run either a 900 watt bass amp with my F215, and on big outdoor stages I run a Pre with a 1,400 watt poweramp

[Stephent28]

I run a PUMA 900 with my fEARful stack and I can shake the walls with the dial at 10 on the Gain and 9 on the Master. I would truly be fearful of what damage I would do to my ears and the venue if I really cranked it up

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15/6 update: I decided to change the look of my cab by changing the baffle colour. I was considering replacing the tolex with something else, but I decided to try just painting it flat black first. Looks pretty good and I think I'll keep it this way for awhile. One of the many great things about DIY is that you can always change things later on... no problemo. Here's a janky pic. I'll try to get something better, but that will have to wait til the rain stops. In Vancouver, that could be awhile. :P

[Dekker]

Originally Posted by ::::BASSIST::::

15/6 update: I decided to change the look of my cab by changing the baffle colour. I was considering replacing the tolex with something else, but I decided to try just painting it flat black first. Looks pretty good and I think I'll keep it this way for awhile.

I really like the look of that tolex - has an interesting texture! The black gives it a different look too.

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Thanks bro. That pic doesnt really do it justice though.

[Dan Knowlton]

Originally Posted by cableguy

Still cracks me up, I was totally in his head all night.....

Yuck! That sounds nasty - being in a guitarist's head. Is there some kind of disinfectant or antibiotic you could take as a preventative measure?

Although I have to admit to being in a worse spot - I've been in the sound guy's head. I'm still recovering.

Dan K.

[cableguy]

Originally Posted by Lonnybass

During soundcheck at my last gig, the sound guy asked me to turn my stage volume down...clearly due to the massive intimidating Fearfulness of my dual 15/6s.

I relished the opportunity to tell him that I hadn't yet turned my power amp on.

Lonnybass

Textbook definition of "hearing with your eyes".

Not what you want out of a soundman.....

[TheEmptyCell]

I'm considering a 15/6 flat pack kit, but I'm wondering if I should spring for the tweeter and/or more expensive mid. I slap, tap, and use a pick, but I'm primarily a fingerstyle player. My main bass is a Dingwall ABZ5, tuned to B standard. I use a Bass Big Muff and plan on upgrading my head to a Genz Benz Shuttle or Streamliner for added tube grit. I'm trying to save some $$ by buying the kit. My current cab has a tweeter that I keep the Lpad centered or rolled down, so I'm not convinced the tweeter is necessary. I like a big of clank and grind to my tone, like Geddy or Steve Harris but bassier.

Thanks guys!

[CL400Peavey]

Originally Posted by TheEmptyCell

I'm considering a 15/6 flat pack kit, but I'm wondering if I should spring for the tweeter and/or more expensive mid. I slap, tap, and use a pick, but I'm primarily a fingerstyle player. My main bass is a Dingwall ABZ5, tuned to B standard. I use a Bass Big Muff and plan on upgrading my head to a Genz Benz Shuttle or Streamliner for added tube grit. I'm trying to save some $$ by buying the kit. My current cab has a tweeter that I keep the Lpad centered or rolled down, so I'm not convinced the tweeter is necessary. I like a big of clank and grind to my tone, like Geddy or Steve Harris but bassier.

Thanks guys!

A 15/6 flat pack sounds like a good option for you.

Just to be clear there is only one mid driver option with the 15/6, and that is the 18sound driver. It might be hard to find a fEARful to try out with out taking a trip out of state. From my experience with a 15/6 I dont think you would want the tweeter. The 18sound mid driver is a little beast and will cover just about any bass player's needs. If you ever plan on running music/drums/synth through the cab then the tweeter is worth the expense.

The other thing you may want to investigate is switchable padding on the mid driver. Not a variable attenuation, but just a padding switch. I would look for something like the ~-3db (standard) and a -0 (unpadded) option.

[exiii]

Tweet is definitely worth the effort and cost. Running music through my cabs, it's vital. On bass, it's much more subtle, but there is definitely a difference. I was experimenting with that just this weekend.

[MSUsousaphone]

I agree. I support the tweet.

Especially for tapping.

[dukeorock]

I gotta say, the tweet doesn't cost much and you can always turn it off when you don't need it

Especially for tapping, it'd be nice...very subtle, but nice

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My 12/6 in action... both as bass guitar monitor and vocal/back track monitor. This was her first gig. Proper pics coming soon!