Thanks Mark! This band uses dual subs (needed for the backing tracks) so I can just bring my 12/6 and call 'er done. I can hear myself loud and clear with the cab angled towards my head, yet I am not too loud for the stage... or the female singer.
Thanks Mark! This band uses dual subs (needed for the backing tracks) so I can just bring my 12/6 and call 'er done. I can hear myself loud and clear with the cab angled towards my head, yet I am not too loud for the stage... or the female singer.
Those cabs have such great low end it rally doesn't hurt a thing to tilt 'em back...glad you're loving your rig, bro!
You could build a cab with a tweeter cut out and fit the horn but blank the back off where the driver screws on.
That way if you ever want to add the tweeter it requires no cutting, just add the driver and crossover (and everyone will think you have the tweeter anyway, even if you never fit it).
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G&L L-2500 -> Art Pro Channel II -> 35Hz HPF -> Peavey IPR1600 -> fEARful 15/6 and/or 12/6
Alrighty, got some video of both preamps through Frank's authorized builder (BAD)15/6/1, and I think they came out pretty well. Unfortunately, it looks like Frank has a problem with his woofer - sounds like a sort of whistling. We tightened everything up and re-did the gaskets on the woofer and mid to no avail. Also tightened up the crossovers and bundled the wires, but the sound is still there. It occurs on the lower registers when you dig in at moderate and higher volumes. Maybe voicecoil rub?
Anyway, sounded pretty darn good even with the speaker hiccup if I do say so. Nice and balanced across the spectrum. I even turned the tweeter full on and thought it sounded very nice - and I hate tweeters! Tweeter on vs. off was actually very subtle, but I play passive basses so it's not surprising. But it makes you realize how f'ed up the tweeters/crossovers in regular cabs are with respect to tonal balance. I felt right at home with both preamps set flat - not hearing any "gank". I'm bummed I couldn't slam the cab due to the speaker issue, but I know the low end is there with a healthy driver, and I still enjoyed it very much! I thought the overall tone translated well to video.
Second link is a continuation with the 6SL7 pre - camera batteries conked out during the first one. Listen at around 1:30 for the speaker issue. http://youtu.be/di_KjtKwseQ
Unfortunately, it looks like Frank has a problem with his woofer - sounds like a sort of whistling. We tightened everything up and re-did the gaskets on the woofer and mid to no avail. Also tightened up the crossovers and bundled the wires, but the sound is still there. It occurs on the lower registers when you dig in at moderate and higher volumes.
I haven't listened to the clips, but that description makes me think there's an air leak.
JGR, good sounding clips. Would you say that your own homebuilt cabs have more low mid thickness but less super lows? Good sound but, I liked you cabs better. I actually do like the fearful 15/6 cabs but could never get that low mid push and punch no matter what eq I used. Always felt like I had to turn way up to get that feel. When you are clipping a shuttlemax 9.2 and still can't get that feel, you are too loud.
Kringle, I get what (to my ears/taste) is good low mid push/punch with my Max 9.2 + 12/6s by setting the low mid frequency about 3 or 4 clicks up from full CCW, then boosting it a few clicks.
JGR, good sounding clips. Would you say that your own homebuilt cabs have more low mid thickness but less super lows? Good sound but, I liked you cabs better. I actually do like the fearful 15/6 cabs but could never get that low mid push and punch no matter what eq I used. Always felt like I had to turn way up to get that feel. When you are clipping a shuttlemax 9.2 and still can't get that feel, you are too loud.
While the 15/6 is in kind of the opposite direction of the voicing you dig, the Max 9.2 can get you there pretty nicely. Per the post above, a good solid boost around 200hz or a touch lower (i.e., with the freq of the low mid control around 8 o'clock or so) combined with a pretty good cut of the upper mids at around 2K to take care of that bit of spike in the 18sound (freq of the upper mid control at about 2-3 o'clock), and then a softening of the treble control which is set low enough to continue to smooth out the rise at 4K and above on that mid driver, and it sounds pretty darn good (edit: To my ear, the Max heads have a bit of a rise above 1K also, so that is a 'bit too much of a good thing' with some of the 18Sound builds that I've played... IMO there, and easily controlled with the Max upper mid control)
At 8ohms and with the moderate efficiency and big low end of the 15/6 cabs, you will see the Genz heads reach that 'power management indicator mode when you start cranking, but that really doesn't mean 'clipping' in the traditional sense of a power amp clip light on many amps, and is not an issue.
GREAT head with these heads if your goal is to muscle them into a bit more traditional low mid punchy/organic top end vibe. The built in hi passing of that head, along with the variable hi pass/bass boost filter is also WONDERFUL to both control the big low end of these cabs if you don't want it, or dial them in if you do want it.
Like I said, I got a really good sound out of Lomo's 15/6 and the one that I owned as well. Sometimes I'd like to give the cab another try, but there are so many cool cabs coming out right now. If I was going in this direction, I would probably go with a fearless f215 cab or maybe a 1212/6.
Truthfully, I really liked the sound of my dually/lds loaded with 3015's more but, missed the extra top end and dispersion of a mid. The dually had more growl and rougher mids that I liked though. A dually loaded with a smoother mid like a faital 5" may be just the ticket. I did find myself really pumping the 150hz and 500hz bands on the genz to get that big sealed cab fullness and punch. It did well, but not quite right. I'd like to see what greenboy could come up with in terms of a more traditional voiced cab with better dispersion. If/when that cab comes out, I think you will see alot of cabs being built.
Truthfully, I really liked the sound of my dually/lds loaded with 3015's more but, missed the extra top end and dispersion of a mid. The dually had more growl and rougher mids that I liked though. A dually loaded with a smoother mid like a faital 5" may be just the ticket. I did find myself really pumping the 150hz and 500hz bands on the genz to get that big sealed cab fullness and punch. It did well, but not quite right. I'd like to see what greenboy could come up with in terms of a more traditional voiced cab with better dispersion. If/when that cab comes out, I think you will see alot of cabs being built.
I believe that is what the fEARless cabs are meant to do... more organic top end with the more 'papercone' sounding smaller mid driver, and a tighter low end tuning that doesn't require as much 'messing with' if you are looking for more 'punch' than 'deep extension'.
I would guess I would be pretty happy with the fEARless voicing.
I believe that is what the fEARless cabs are meant to do... more organic top end with the more 'papercone' sounding smaller mid driver, and a tighter low end tuning that doesn't require as much 'messing with' if you are looking for more 'punch' than 'deep extension'.
I would guess I would be pretty happy with the fEARless voicing.
Though I loved my fEARful cabs, I do personally much prefer the FEARLESS stuff, and our customers, so far, are just loving them...as everyone has said, the lows are a bit tighter (yet still huge if needed), the mids are smoother and the Faitals extend much higher...and they're smaller and lighter...what's not to love
