feedback on avatar 1x12 cabs?

sehnsucht77 · #1 05-16-2010, 01:54 AM

i am interested in getting a 1x12 for small clubs and for use a practice cab at home. anyone have feedback and experience with the avatar 1x12 cabs? i plan to use it with an eden WT-800.

lewislngvw · #2 05-16-2010, 05:17 AM

while i like my little avatar 1x12 , i am concerned that the eden wt-800 might be too much amp for it...i use an eden wtx-260 with mine and love the tone and volume i get....

sehnsucht77 · #3 05-16-2010, 09:39 AM

@lew: would you suggest nothing smaller than a 2x12? i will primarily use the amp for practice at home and maybe a small club gig here and there. since i live in an apartment, i just don't want to fireup my 2x12 to practice because it might be a bit much for my student neighbors.

jtc_hunter · #4 05-16-2010, 10:50 AM

A 112 will be fine. Just use some common sense that you cant pump too many watts into it. I run a 500 watt amp into one of my 112 avatars all the time, but keep my master on 9:00. At a larger gig, I run both cabs (4ohm load) and sometimes D.I. too. Check my signature.

sehnsucht77 · #5 05-16-2010, 12:35 PM

thanks both.

@jtc, does your avatar have a tweeter on it or is it just a woofer? my 2x12 has a tweeter on it but i can't recall if avatar puts em on the single speaker cabs.

jgsbass · #6 05-16-2010, 12:49 PM

I love mine. Handles my gigs real well.

jtc_hunter · #7 05-16-2010, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sehnsucht77

thanks both.

@jtc, does your avatar have a tweeter on it or is it just a woofer? my 2x12 has a tweeter on it but i can't recall if avatar puts em on the single speaker cabs.

Yes it has the same Foster tweeter and I run it at about 50%.

lewislngvw · #8 05-17-2010, 01:34 PM

IMHO.....i would use a 2x12....you can always turn down if it is too loud....the 1x12 , while still capable of moderate levels , will not allow any headroom as you will not be able to push it much past half volume.....myself , i would not be comfortable with the 1x12 because anything can happen....i am a big fan of headroom....but if you must use the 1x12 use care not to push too hard or it will be the last time you play through it.....

Brubass · #9 05-17-2010, 01:46 PM

I have an SB112 with the Eminence Delta driver (500w, 8 ohms) running off my Gallien-Kreuger MB2-500 (375w @ 8 ohms, 500w @ 4 ohms). It does fine for practice and stage monitoring both indoor and outdoor. I just played an outdoor party gig on Saturday and it did fine (although I always have FOH support from the DI out). I had originally planned to get a matching 8 ohm cab so I could tap the full power of the MB2-500 at 4 ohms, but honestly, I have yet to find myself in a situation where I needed more headroom. In fact, I have more trouble keeping my rig quiet enough so it doesn't dominate the mix. I rarely run above 10:00 on the Gain and 9:00 on the Master.

I play in a cover band with 3 guitars, drums and congas playing hippy rock. We play smaller bars, restaurants and parties. We typically average 75-100 people but I've used this rig at party of 250 in a large ballroom and had no problem.

D.A.R.K. · #10 05-17-2010, 01:58 PM

the 1x12 avatar i had was a large enclosure for a 1x12, was light,
and had a wide, more vintage like tone.
big sounding for a 1x12.
it had a neo speaker, was 350 watts.
great cab, ok horn (didn't use much of it).
as a standalone fine within reason (probably not ideal alone for metal or competitive drummers).
cool green tolex too...
oh, also, sounded good with a low b.
pic:

gimmeagig · #11 03-22-2012, 03:22 PM

4 ohm ceramic speaker.Love it! Good for a 5 string,I like the Marcus tone and at first I thought it was a bit harsh on the high end.Turns out I had the horn up way too high. For me it seems to blend best at 1/4 to 1/3 up.I'm getting a second 112.

BurningSkies · #12 03-22-2012, 03:27 PM

Eh. I have one, and to me it's not much of a thing. Actually LEAST useful and good sounding of all my cabs. To me it sounds tubby and with some boom and not a lot else.

gimmeagig · #13 03-22-2012, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BurningSkies

Eh. I have one, and to me it's not much of a thing. Actually LEAST useful and good sounding of all my cabs. To me it sounds tubby and with some boom and not a lot else.

I just checked your profile to see what you listen to and I can see why you wouldn't like the 112 cab. Seems like for your thing you need to move some major air. For Robbie Shakespeare type of stuff the little 12 might just not be the right thing.

BurningSkies · #14 03-22-2012, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by gimmeagig

I just checked your profile to see what you listen to and I can see why you wouldn't like the 112 cab. Seems like for your thing you need to move some major air. For Robbie Shakespeare type of stuff the little 12 might just not be the right thing.

Even at home tooling around in low volume it wasn't all that grand. I used it extremely briefly on stage with various configurations, but that never worked in the least. I've played other 112 cabs that were more palatable sounding.

gimmeagig · #15 03-22-2012, 04:32 PM

I just looked at your rig on the fearful site.Nice Bass!!!

BurningSkies · #16 03-22-2012, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by gimmeagig

I just looked at your rig on the fearful site.Nice Bass!!!

Thanks! You know they come better in pairs, right?

gimmeagig · #17 03-22-2012, 06:19 PM

Very Cool!

Frankjohnson · #18 03-22-2012, 07:40 PM

I have been using my SB112 to gig small/med blues gigs for about 6-7 years now. I had a Kappa Pro in it, and now have the 4 ohm delta LF in it. It handles most rooms without issue.

I also have a 4-10 neo (Also avatar) and sold my svt410 hlf due to weight. I will probably get the Portaflex PF15 cab also - to mount the PF 500 head. The reason I mention that is that I have used the PF500, Peavey T Max, SWR 550X, Qsc plx 1602 and RBI and more recently the Shuttle 6.0 to fuel the SB112. It has had great tone, a fantastic voice, and carried a LOT of rooms without issue.

I think it really depends on the room, members of the band/equipment, and of course type of music/levels for you. If I had to guess - 575-600 shows + rehearsal + home noodling on it.

I blew the first LF12 because I didn't understand how that QSC and RBI rig worked with it and over exerted the cone. Valuable lesson - it has been fine since.

gimmeagig · #19 05-04-2012, 07:51 PM

I just got a second 4 ohm 112. My Eden WT550 handles it no problem. Best tone i have ever had.

bobcruz · #20 05-05-2012, 12:14 AM

'Gig, did you ever try plugging a port on your SB112? 'Skie's description of the tone of his 112 is exactly what you'd expect from that 3 db 80 Hz bump that the stock port produces with that cab. I'm totally digging the tone from my two SB112s (neo versions), modded to block one port. I've also gotten similar tone from retrofitting Eminence Basslites in a couple of slightly smaller 112+tweet cabs.