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12-16-2012, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Andyman001 #926 - Bassist30 | Thank You. Used the amp last nigt for the fist time live. Amazing with the TCw15AF. I may want to try there cabs next.
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12-16-2012, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Dredmahawkus that was my reasoning for getting a 2-12 first and a 2-12 later and not the 4-12....even if lighter then any other cab that 4-12 looks aweful heavy to get in and out of the car.....or better yet up and down stairs! my old 2-12 guitar combo amp was a bitch getting up and down stairs. | I have the first series NEO412 which is heavier and you would be surprised how easy it is to move. It is over-kill for smaller venues though. 
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I told my manager that I wanted a regular gig. She told me to try prune juice.
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12-16-2012, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Chef Let me clarify...in my case, it's not cab two wobbling on top of cab one, they interlock well. It's the stack vs not quite flat club stage. | In my case it is cab two wobbling on top of cab one in my living room with a carpeted floor. Pretty significantly to.
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12-16-2012, 01:08 PM
|  | Wisconsin Bassist Club Member #1 | | Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Northern Wisconsin | | | More problems - now with the Fusion 550!!! I just tried my new Fusion 550 / two Neo 112-II rig today for the 2nd time (ever). It crackled the first time I used it (yesterday) , but only for a little while. This time the crackling was so bad and lasted a lot longer that I thought one of my tweeters was blown. The only reason that I think it's the amp is because it comes and goes and if it was the tweeter it would be all the time. It crackled non-stop for a few minutes , but it settled down some after a while but would still intermittently come back. I am very bummed out because when it isn't crackling I just love the sound of this amp. I'm pretty sure that I'm going to return it to musicians friend and maybe just go for the MB Fusion instead.
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12-16-2012, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Pedulla-Player I just tried my new Fusion 550 / two Neo 112-II rig today for the 2nd time (ever). It crackled the first time I used it (yesterday) , but only for a little while. This time the crackling was so bad and lasted a lot longer that I thought one of my tweeters was blown. The only reason that I think it's the amp is because it comes and goes and if it was the tweeter it would be all the time. It crackled non-stop for a few minutes , but it settled down some after a while but would still intermittently come back. I am very bummed out because when it isn't crackling I just love the sound of this amp. I'm pretty sure that I'm going to return it to musicians friend and maybe just go for the MB Fusion instead. | Since you posted in both threads:
Could just be a noisy preamp tube (new production tubes are unpredictable). BTW the tubes are a lot easier to swap in the Fusion 550 
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Originally Posted by beans-on-toast
I told my manager that I wanted a regular gig. She told me to try prune juice.
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12-16-2012, 01:56 PM
|  | Smile more, ok? Staff Reviewer; Bass Gear Magazine Moderator | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: Columbia MO | | | ^^^Could be a tube, yep.
SAme thing could happen with the MBFusion.
I'd sure go get a replacement tube, and swap it into each slot and see if that fixes it.
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12-16-2012, 02:36 PM
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12-16-2012, 02:45 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Lake Havasu City, Az USA | | Yes they are not the "tubes" I grew up on. It still remains a viable technology but not as predictable as it once was. 
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Originally Posted by beans-on-toast
I told my manager that I wanted a regular gig. She told me to try prune juice.
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12-16-2012, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by B-string The raw speakers (last I heard) are still made in their G-K China plant. All amp and cab production is in the Cal. plant. The NEOs are the best value on the market. Excellent cabs at twice the price. | I think it's their clever way to go around the huge Neodymium import costs... Hopefully soon the new raw mineral mines in Mohave will eliminate this issue, too. | 
12-16-2012, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Dredmahawkus I havent even tried my mb fusion yet....ordered the neo 2-12 today....and wondering if anyone ever put a tube compressor pedal with the mbfusion.....I know you probably do not need to add anything....but the thought just crossed my mind. I love tube warmth! | Me thinks you get all the warmth you ever need and more with the MB Fusion 500 tube preamps. But if you need clean or non-clean compression, then you should use a compressor in front. | 
12-16-2012, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ksandvik I think it's their clever way to go around the huge Neodymium import costs... Hopefully soon the new raw mineral mines in Mohave will eliminate this issue, too. | I personally think you are correct. Otherwise RAG may have closed the China plant completely. Just guessing.
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Originally Posted by beans-on-toast
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12-16-2012, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by scottfeldstein The varieties of sounds one can get via the EQ has got to be greater than the difference between brands. Anything can sound like anything, or close enough for rock n roll. | This has not been my experience... or at least let me put it this way... we all have a sound we want to hear, and some gear pretty much gets it out of the box, and other gear requires a lot of tweaking and such to get there, or at least get close.
At the end of the day, it's still true all that gear out there is different enough that there will be good and bad choices for us. It doesn't have the be the case that you buy one amp and just resolve yourself to working hard to get your sound from it. If it doesn't come naturally to that gear, move on. Too many fish in the sea to struggle over one.
IMHO/IME anyway. | 
12-16-2012, 04:49 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: SF Bay Area North CA | | | I've seen cases where people have a specific amp to get a specific sound. Then in front of the amp they have a big pedalboard with all kinds of colorization parts, VT Bass and so on and so on, that pretty much changes the sound so all they would have needed would have been a clean power amp. | 
12-16-2012, 04:50 PM
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12-16-2012, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Chef What is this "pedal board" you speak of?  | Look at a mediocre guitarist's feet 
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Originally Posted by beans-on-toast
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12-16-2012, 05:15 PM
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12-16-2012, 05:17 PM
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12-16-2012, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ksandvik Saw Brad Paisley's pedal board this Friday at a corporate gig, that was an impressive amount of pedals and he knows how to play guitar. Anyway, there are places for pedals even with bass players. But I never understood if someone got a bass amp with specific characteristics and then destroyed that tone by various pre-amps *which are on all the time*. GK being a good example. | I have an Ampeg combo that I use a compressor with every single time. Mostly because it makes that rig sound so much better to me, highlighting the highs mostly. But with my 700RBII I rarely use it, and then only to brighten up a muddy/quiet bass I recently bought. That pedal was just a transition to my understanding how I wanted my bass to sound, which was apparently more like a GK. The pedal got me closer until I could actually afford the real thing. Maybe other people just want a different sound and haven't realized it yet like I did?
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12-16-2012, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by B-string Since you posted in both threads:
Could just be a noisy preamp tube (new production tubes are unpredictable). BTW the tubes are a lot easier to swap in the Fusion 550  | Quote:
Originally Posted by Chef ^^^Could be a tube, yep.
SAme thing could happen with the MBFusion.
I'd sure go get a replacement tube, and swap it into each slot and see if that fixes it. | You guys may be right with thinking it's a bad tube. Problem for me is the closest half-way decent music store is over 1 1/2 hours away (one way). There are a couple crappy ones about an hour away , but I don't deal with those stores. Since I live in the boonies and can't just drive a couple miles to pick up a new tube I have reluctantly decided to return the Fusion 550 to Musicians Friend. Having problems with the head right out of the box (even if it may be just a tube) and the fact that it doesn't fit on top of my vertically stacked Neo 112's has lead me to the decision to return it. When it wasn't crackling the amp did sound amazing so it breaks my heart to return it. All I can say is ... if there is a bad one in the bunch - I usually end up with it...
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12-16-2012, 08:20 PM
|  | Smile more, ok? Staff Reviewer; Bass Gear Magazine Moderator | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: Columbia MO | | | call GK customer service and ask them to send you a tube or three to trouble shoot with....
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