Gallien Kreuger Official Club Part 7

[mouthmw]

It's not that hard to move. I once put it in and out of the band van by myself. And I actually had to lift it. 2 people carrying it - a breeze.

[2milehighspike]

Originally Posted by B-string

Contact jason@gallien.com then, I don't have his ext.

After posting I found this from Bob himself on the other thread!
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Robert A. Gallien, President Gallien-Krueger

Join Date: Mar 2003
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedulla-Player
I just tried my new Fusion 550 / two Neo 112-II rig today for the 2nd time (ever). It crackled the first time I used it , but only for a little while. This time the crackling was so bad and lasted a lot longer that I thought one of my tweeters was blown. The only reason that I think it's the amp is because it comes and goes and if it was the tweeter it would be all the time. It crackled non-stop for a few minutes , but it settled down some after a while but would still intermittently come back. I am very bummed out because when it isn't crackling I just love the sound of this amp. I'm pretty sure that I'm going to return it to musicians friend and maybe just go for the MB Fusion instead.


Contact jason@gallien.com and we will work out a fix for you. This sounds like a bad tube, which can happen in shipping. We use the best tubes available (JJ electronics) but even those can go bad.
Bob

THAT is why I will use GK products and ONLY GK products for the rest of my life, Merry christmas Bob, and the MB112/ MBP mini stack ROCKS!

[TK4261]

Originally Posted by Chef

Man.
If I had one, I wouldn't be moving it though.

That's what the cheerleaders secured to the basement floor with chains and I-bolts are for.

Haha

Originally Posted by mouthmw

It's not that hard to move. I once put it in and out of the band van by myself. And I actually had to lift it. 2 people carrying it - a breeze.

It seems easy enough to move around with the handle and wheels but I can definitely see how it would be more helpful for 2 people to load and unload.

[Phil54]

I`m just waiting on my GK 412 Neo to arrive. I got the last one on Amazon for $677.00 delivered. I can`t wait to hear how that will sound with my 2001RB head. Does anyone have this set-up and if so would it be better to run it in dual/mono or bridged mode?

[Chef]

2 cheerleaders.

Originally Posted by mouthmw

It's not that hard to move. I once put it in and out of the band van by myself. And I actually had to lift it. 2 people carrying it - a breeze.

[Pedulla-Player]

Originally Posted by Vic

WAIT!

I can't believe I missed this...

Have you actually tried another amp and done immediate back/back testing?

Unless I'm missing a detail nullifying it, 90% guarantee it's the fuses on the crossover.

I had a Neo115-III I bought used that was doing this EXACT same thing, and I thought the EXACT same thing, until I swapped tweeters and it didn't help.

Here's the "test", if you have one cab that does, and another that doesn't. Pull both crossover panels out and swap the fuses (there's two in each one). If the failure follows the fuses (which it did in my case), GK can just send you some if you can't find any at an electronics dealer somewhere... there a bit odd, so Radio Shack might not carry them.

So obviously, your first question is, hey, if the fuse is blown, why does it work at all? Why does it "crackle"?

The answer is, it's NOT blown... it's a MECHANICAL failure. Some of these fuses simply have an issue with the filament attachment in the end cap, so you can't see where it's separated, but it is, and the vibration of playing through the cab literally makes/breaks that connection, making it sound like a crackle. Depending on the exact breakage, it can be pretty inconsistent, too.

Otherwise, if the fuse swap doesn't fix it, then you're simply back to contacting GK as you already were. In other words, "never mind. But man, this really sounds like the problem I had, and after swapping the fuses out, the problem is gone forever.

I wish that I would have gotten this post before I left for work and returned the head.
I don't have another head at the moment so here is what I did do. I ran each cab singulaly through each input into the head. I even swapped the GK cables that came with the head through both speakers into each input to see if it was a bad cable. The speakers worked fine when I was using only just one no matter what input or cable I was using. The only time I had the crackling / fuzz noise is when I was using both cabs?? This made me think it was the head so I called Musicians Friend and returned it. I am undecided if I will try onther 550 or a MF Fusion. It may be a couple weeks before I decide what to do. I honestly am thinking of returning the wobbly cab in and getting a replacement. I find it rather irritating - either the cab wobbles on the floor or between the cabs depending on how they are stacked. It is a very significant wobble or I wouldn't mind.

[scottfeldstein]

That cab wobble is just about as weird as the crackling sound. I've had GK cabs and I've had GK cabs. New, used, Neos and other lines...all of them, every last one stacked tight as a frickin' lego with the others.

[Vic]

Originally Posted by scottfeldstein

That cab wobble is just about as weird as the crackling sound. I've had GK cabs and I've had GK cabs. New, used, Neos and other lines...all of them, every last one stacked tight as a frickin' lego with the others.

+1

[Vic]

Originally Posted by Pedulla-Player

I wish that I would have gotten this post before...

Well, given the rest of what you said, maybe it is the head after all... especially since I have no way of hearing what you heard, and, the info you present here might change my mind.

Anyway, if you get a replacement, and you hear the same thing, check into the fuses. The head swap shouldn't cost you anything given it was under the premise of a failed product.

It's a great head, and should be VERY solid for you, so don't worry. It'll get figured out and you'll be fine.

[Bassist30]

Originally Posted by TK4261

Hi All,
The big brown truck dropped off this big brown box today.
I still cant believe that I got this 412 Neo off Amazon new for $100 less than what the regular discounted/sale price of a 410 Neo goes for. I think I got the last 412 at that $600 price cause now it doesn't show up..Now they are priced at the regular $999 on Amazon. I'm also glad it was the latest version of the cab cause I thought it might have been old stock.
I know it is probably overkill for most of the venues that I will use it at but that will just give me an excuse to get a 212 MBE II cab when they finally come out next year. Right now I don't have a head for it due to having my MB Fusion 800 on pre-order....waiting...waiting...waiting...
I'm having a friend bring his GB shuttle 9.2 over to test out the cab tonight just to make sure everything is working/sounding fine.

Can I join the club please?

Wow. Have fun with it. Congratulations.

[TK4261]

Originally Posted by Bassist30

Wow. Have fun with it. Congratulations.

Thank you,
My friend brought over his Shuttle head to test out the 412 and Holy Shyte! This cab sounds great and no upfront issues! I'm glad I saw the post of the person that found this deal on Amazon. I asked my upstairs neighbor if it was ok to get really loud for 5-10 minutes...He was already used to me pushing my limit with my old Hartke 5210c so he didn't mind..Good to have cool neighbors

Since the MB Fusion 800 wont have a Bi-Amp capability with the 412 cab, I will just turn switch to full range mode correct?
Even with the 4pin supplied speakon cable?

[B-string]

Originally Posted by TK4261

Thank you,
My friend brought over his Shuttle head to test out the 412 and Holy Shyte! This cab sounds great and no upfront issues! I'm glad I saw the post of the person that found this deal on Amazon. I asked my upstairs neighbor if it was ok to get really loud for 5-10 minutes...He was already used to me pushing my limit with my old Hartke 5210c so he didn't mind..Good to have cool neighbors

Since the MB Fusion 800 wont have a Bi-Amp capability with the 412 cab, I will just turn switch to full range mode correct?
Even with the 4pin supplied speakon cable?

Yes the MB800 will have no connection to the 2+,2- on the cable so you need to run in full range. Unless you want the horn tweeter off then switch to Bi-amp
Your upstairs neighbor may send you bills for picture frame glass BTW (my drummers wife did ).

[Linchpin72]

Just wanted to say thanks for all if the valuable info shared here - very helpful!!
I don't have anything to add right now, but thought I'd share a pic.
1001RBII, 410 Neo
(Already have a number)

[pan1k]

Originally Posted by TK4261

I'm hoping it sounds as Crazy Good as it looks

Dude. you gotta record some audio with it and post it! Great buy!

[TK4261]

Originally Posted by pan1k

Dude. you gotta record some audio with it and post it! Great buy!

I will as soon as i get my Fusion 800

[Andyman001]

[quote=TK4261;13591652]Hi All,
The big brown truck dropped off this big brown box today.
I still cant believe that I got this 412 Neo off Amazon new for $100 less than what the regular discounted/sale price of a 410 Neo goes for. I think I got the last 412 at that $600 price cause now it doesn't show up..Now they are priced at the regular $999 on Amazon. I'm also glad it was the latest version of the cab cause I thought it might have been old stock.
I know it is probably overkill for most of the venues that I will use it at but that will just give me an excuse to get a 212 MBE II cab when they finally come out next year. Right now I don't have a head for it due to having my MB Fusion 800 on pre-order....waiting...waiting...waiting...
I'm having a friend bring his GB shuttle 9.2 over to test out the cab tonight just to make sure everything is working/sounding fine.

Can I join the club please?




#929 - TK4261

[TK4261]

Originally Posted by Andyman001

#929 - TK4261

Thank you!

[Pedulla-Player]

Originally Posted by scottfeldstein

That cab wobble is just about as weird as the crackling sound. I've had GK cabs and I've had GK cabs. New, used, Neos and other lines...all of them, every last one stacked tight as a frickin' lego with the others.

If there is one bad outta 100 - that's the one I'm getting. That's the way my luck seens to go.

[pan1k]

Originally Posted by TK4261

I will as soon as i get my Fusion 800

Jebus. you are either going to get some girl pregnant or someone implode. Either way, youre going to leave a lasting impression on someone.

[Chef]

I know being able to "get hella loud" is all cool and whatnot.

But, for me, the times I do actually use my 2x212, it's more about being able to feel fuller in a bigger venue.

Then again, once and a while there's a big outdoor thing I really need it for.

Lastly, I doubt you'll be able to tell the diff in recording a 112 vs 412, but have fun with that