Gallien Kreuger Official Club Part 7

[Dredmahawkus]

I got the mbfusion.....saving a bit more for the neo 212. cant wait to try it!

hey one question if anyone knows.....I might have a chance to get a h&K 200w 4-10 for cheap....is the mbfusion too much power for that 200w? this will be just a practice amp and wont be that loud.

[scottfeldstein]

No amp is "too much power." Don't worry about the cabinet watt ratings. After all, just because the Neo 212 is rated "600w" doesn't mean you can turn your 500w head up to 11 safe in the knowledge that you're 100w under the cab's maximum. It doesn't work like that.

You just need to follow the same rules as with any speaker cabs: if it starts sounding distressed, making fart noises..you're pushing it too hard and you need to turn down. It'll almost certainly start doing that before you reach its stated watt rating.

[TK4261]

I saw that Sweetwater has the new 410MBE II 800(4 & 8 ohms) watt cabinets in-stock for $549. I like that they have the same Neodymium speakers as the Neo cabs and only weigh 47lbs but I'm really curious to know if the new design has made them any more structurally sound than the first MBE cabs? 800 watts and 47 lbs sounds like a great combination of what someone would want out of a compact 410 cab. Wish they were $449-$499 though.

[HeavyDuty]

TK, RMC Audio doesn't show the 410MBE II on their site yet, but you may want to give them a try - I suspect their pricing will be substantially less than what you've seen.

[TK4261]

Originally Posted by HeavyDuty

TK, RMC Audio doesn't show the 410MBE II on their site yet, but you may want to give them a try - I suspect their pricing will be substantially less than what you've seen.

Yeah, I will give them a call. I didn't see on their site either since I have been looking at cabs...I do have my MB Fusion 800 on pre-order with RMC since they were taking pre-oprders and the price was great. Mostly my concern with the 410MBE II was how well the cab is built...Its so light, It makes me wonder

I have a 410 Neo 4ohm cab on order with RMC also but it is a special order and wont be ready till mid January so I have another week to cancel if I like and pick a different cab. I'm still pondering about the 410 Neo, 410MBE II and the 412 Neo

Thanks HeavyDuty!

[Warmuth]

Originally Posted by TK4261

Yeah, I will give them a call. I didn't see on their site either since I have been looking at cabs...I do have my MB Fusion 800 on pre-order with RMC since they were taking pre-oprders and the price was great. Mostly my concern with the 410MBE II was how well the cab is built...Its so light, It makes me wonder

I have a 410 Neo 4ohm cab on order with RMC also but it is a special order and wont be ready till mid January so I have another week to cancel if I like and pick a different cab. I'm still pondering about the 410 Neo, 410MBE II and the 412 Neo

Thanks HeavyDuty!

I'm a noob to all things bass related but I do have both the 410neo and the 412neo. The only reason I can think of to use the 410 would be space in your vehicle of choice. The 412 does pretty much everything better to my ears but it is big. The 410 is a capable cab but there were some drawbacks for me. It's short and I'm tall so on a cramped stage it was hard to hear. It also didn't handle anything below D at higher volumes very well.

The 410 is probably cab enough for most situations but it's not a fair fight against the 412. The 412 is on Amazon for 600.00 right now as well. That's probably the best deal on a cab in the world right now. I thought I was stealing it at 666.00

[TK4261]

Originally Posted by Warmuth

I'm a noob to all things bass related but I do have both the 410neo and the 412neo. The only reason I can think of to use the 410 would be space in your vehicle of choice. The 412 does pretty much everything better to my ears but it is big. The 410 is a capable cab but there were some drawbacks for me. It's short and I'm tall so on a cramped stage it was hard to hear. It also didn't handle anything below D at higher volumes very well.

The 410 is probably cab enough for most situations but it's not a fair fight against the 412. The 412 is on Amazon for 600.00 right now as well. That's probably the best deal on a cab in the world right now. I thought I was stealing it at 666.00

Everyone that has the 412 neo seems to love them
I have a truck so transport is no problem. Since I'm getting the MB Fusion 800 the 412 might just be the way to go. I would imagine that combination would sound amazing and that Amazon price is unbeatable

[Chef]

$600...for the 412?
Good grief, I'm so glad I don't want one of those; I have 2x212 now.
I don't ever want to move anything that big again, but, man..............

[scottfeldstein]

That is a crazy deal. Good thing I never want to move a cab that big ever again.

[Warmuth]

That head with the 412 will put a giant smile on your face. The difference between the 412 and 410 is really pretty staggering.

[Chef]

I didn't like the 410.
It's low end tuning made it feel mid-shy and scooped to me, and, it was a bunch heavier than the 212, which feels much more balanced to me.

[MysticMichael]

I think I must have joined the club already in Part 1-6, but I can't recall for sure. So, just in case:

- 700RB-II
- MB800
- MB500

It's funny: Until quite recently, I never even considered playing GK amps. To me, they were always synonymous with "thin, tinny-sounding, and harsh".

Clearly I was mistaken, as they're way more versatile than I'd ever realized: clean, punchy & ballsy for sure. But they can also be smooth & refined - not exactly hi-fi, but very definitely modern. I now consider my GK amps to be some of the best gear I own, and clearly a great bargain, considering the prodigious bang for the buck they offer.

If you like the solid-state sound, you can't do much better than GK...

MM

[Warmuth]

Originally Posted by Chef

I didn't like the 410.
It's low end tuning made it feel mid-shy and scooped to me, and, it was a bunch heavier than the 212, which feels much more balanced to me.

The 410 is a backbreaking mess to lift. I didn't mind the tone of the 410 too much but at the end of the day I found it lacking everywhere else.

[BklynKen]

Just got my new MB500. Unfortunately I can only play it through headphones right now since I use a small GK combo amp at home. I got this for gigging. Through headphones, at least, it sounds great. I'm wondering if the Boost can replace my Boss Overdrive pedal. Anyone do this? I'd still need the two cables because of the Boss TU-2.

Thanks.

[Pedulla-Player]

My Fusion 550 arrived yesterday (Friday) and according to UPS one of my Neo 112-II's will arrive Tuesday. The other Neo 112-II's tracking number isn't showing up on UPS tracking yet. I'm hoping that one will get here Wednesday. I''ll request a club # when I post a photo of the rig. I'll give my opinions after I have some time under my belt with the rig and I get it broke in.

[bassgod0dmw]

Originally Posted by BklynKen

I'm wondering if the Boost can replace my Boss Overdrive pedal.

It depends on what kind of drive you're going for, and unfortunately something only you can answer. OD tones are very personal.

I use the boost just to add a touch of grit (a'la classic GK growl), and I think it does a decent job at that. I still have a few dirt pedals on my board though for different flavors.

[BklynKen]

Originally Posted by bassgod0dmw

It depends on what kind of drive you're going for, and unfortunately something only you can answer. OD tones are very personal.

I use the boost just to add a touch of grit (a'la classic GK growl), and I think it does a decent job at that. I still have a few dirt pedals on my board though for different flavors.

Makes sense. Thanks. Unfortunately I won't be able to really try it all out until I can play the amp through a cab. It's really annoying doing this through headphones.

[Razman]

I'm falling in love more and more with the 800rb I got recently - haven't been able to apply it to my Henry cab yet as my band has been practicing in our church's theater most of the time, but that will come soon.

The church rig is an SVT6-Pro into four Hartke cabs: two 4x10's and two 1x15's. It's a loud, monster of a rig for sure. On the SVT6 I have the mids and highs boosted, the ultra low, ultra high and bright switches all pushed in (on), and that is how it has been set for years to get the sound we want.

To see if I could get a comparative tone to the Ampeg I set the GK on one side of the stack, unplugged half the cabs and ran them into it (a 4x10 and one 1x15). The contrastingly spartan 800rb with no such bells and whistles sounded great after dialing it in - in fact, I thought it sounded significantly better. I had more aggressive upper mids and a thunderous low end - despite lacking ultra-whatever switches - and no lack of volume either.

The whole experience made me want to take out the Ampeg and put the GK in its place. It makes me question the power rating of the Ampeg and the necessity of all those extra buttons.

Anyway, just thought I'd share - still a viable head after all these years.

Raz

[colbyAKAbobby]

After spending much time with GK stuff in local music stores, I decided on the GK MB500. I play small sized gigs, and it's more than enough. Now I need to decide which cabinet to buy! (Preferably 4 Ohms) I was eyeing the GK 212 MBE. It's a decent price for what I need. (I wish I could afford a 410) Then I realized I could grab a Neo 212 II for around the same amount... IN THE US! I'm Canadian and this the Neo is almost double. So my question is if there would be a good chance here on the TB Classifieds that someone would ship one of the Neo's to Canada, or if the 212 MBE isn't really all that different. So should I hassle people to ship to Canada, or should I settle for the 212 MBE?

[El-Bob]

Originally Posted by Razman

I'm falling in love more and more with the 800rb I got recently - haven't been able to apply it to my Henry cab yet as my band has been practicing in our church's theater most of the time, but that will come soon.

The church rig is an SVT6-Pro into four Hartke cabs: two 4x10's and two 1x15's. It's a loud, monster of a rig for sure. On the SVT6 I have the mids and highs boosted, the ultra low, ultra high and bright switches all pushed in (on), and that is how it has been set for years to get the sound we want.

To see if I could get a comparative tone to the Ampeg I set the GK on one side of the stack, unplugged half the cabs and ran them into it (a 4x10 and one 1x15). The contrastingly spartan 800rb with no such bells and whistles sounded great after dialing it in - in fact, I thought it sounded significantly better. I had more aggressive upper mids and a thunderous low end - despite lacking ultra-whatever switches - and no lack of volume either.

The whole experience made me want to take out the Ampeg and put the GK in its place. It makes me question the power rating of the Ampeg and the necessity of all those extra buttons.

Anyway, just thought I'd share - still a viable head after all these years.

Raz

I don't think that your experience is unusual. I was using a 400RB iv head into an 8ohm 4x10 (yorkville; excellent cab) for a while, but when I ran into some issues with the RB (it's out for repairs now ), I had to borrow a friend's SVT-3 pro head. The SVT is rated for like 300ish watts at 8ohms, and the GK is rated for a meager 180. Guess which head is significantly louder with similar settings? That's right, the GK. I don't think that maxing out the Ampeg would even damage my cab, but I'm sure the GK would absolutely destroy it if I weren't careful (yes, I'm exaggerating how quiet the ampeg is a bit). Way more grind out of the GK as well... I miss mine a lot