Gallien Kreuger Official Club Part 7 - Page 44

worshiprocker · #**861** 02-04-2013, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by AdamR

Is anyone running a DI or EQ pedal with there GK amp ? Im looking for something that wont color the tone but can dial in some mid punch.

Ive used and love the Sans Amp pedals before but they color the tone way to much. The VT bass added a ton of punch to my old Ashdown Mag300-SWR410 rig but it seemed like a one trick pony to me. Great pedal, Great tone but no matter how I twisted the knobs every tone I dialed in sounded more similar than not.

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Originally Posted by AdamR

Anyone try the Hartke ? I think my friend actually has both the M80 and the Hartke. Maybe I can sweet talk him into letting me barrow them.

I've had both... I like the Hartke because it has a "shape" which boosts whichever frequency you choose. The m80 is smaller and is good, The Hartke is also metal, built very well and sounds killer. I find the frequency sweep to be a little more useful than a generic "mid" knob. The m80 has a way more usable dirt tone tho

scottfeldstein · #**862** 02-04-2013, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by worshiprocker

I like the Hartke because it has a "shape" which boosts whichever frequency you choose. [...]. I find the frequency sweep to be a little more useful than a generic "mid" knob.

It's a notch filter, isn't it?

worshiprocker · #**863** 02-04-2013, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by scottfeldstein

It's a notch filter, isn't it?

nailed it

"The SHAPE control applies a specialized 20 dB notch filter to the specified frequency area so that
you can customize the effect of the Shape curve to best complement your particular bass instrument. Moving the Shape control clockwise causes the notch filter to be applied to higher frequencies while moving it counterclockwise causes it to be applied to lower frequencies. At the
fully clockwise position, the filter is applied to the 1 kHz frequency area; this will act to attenuate
mid-range frequencies and give your bass a deep, low tone. At the fully counterclockwise position, the filter is applied to the 90 Hz frequency area; this will act to attenuate low frequencies
and give your bass a biting, trebly sound."

unstable119 · #**864** 02-04-2013, 09:22 PM

700RBII with Avatar 4x10
Was using someone elses cab in the dark one

willsellout · #**865** 02-04-2013, 09:44 PM

Still waiting for my Mpulse to sell so I can grab an MB Fusion

B-string · #**866** 02-04-2013, 11:42 PM

Just saw a Double bass on Dave Letterman show using a 800RB. Never thought that would be a good match, but I was wrong!

AdamR · #**867** 02-05-2013, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by worshiprocker

I've had both... I like the Hartke because it has a "shape" which boosts whichever frequency you choose. The m80 is smaller and is good, The Hartke is also metal, built very well and sounds killer. I find the frequency sweep to be a little more useful than a generic "mid" knob. The m80 has a way more usable dirt tone tho

Thanks Donny, Im gonna try and barrow my friends to try them both. Right now Im leaning to the M80. I like that it has the distortion channel with a blend so I can add just a bit of grit if I want. Im also going to try an MXR 6 band which seems to have better frequencies for bass than the 10 band.

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Originally Posted by B-string

Just saw a Double bass on Dave Letterman show using a 800RB. Never thought that would be a good match, but I was wrong!

When I was reading up n 800Rbs I did a search in the double bass forum by accident and came up with a surprising amount of hits

petrus61 · #**868** 02-05-2013, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by B-string

Just saw a Double bass on Dave Letterman show using a 800RB. Never thought that would be a good match, but I was wrong!

I've seen Chris Wood from Madeski Martin an Wood use either that or a 400RB. Perhaps something about those particular units resonate with URB guys?

**Chef** · #**869** 02-05-2013, 08:24 AM

I haven't used one of those, for that.
I have used the little, older combo, long ago. Very mid present, if that's your thing...I like more phat.

I do use my MBFusion with DB, and that works nicely.
I haven't tried the 1001, but I bet I could get that workin' ok.

also: "Medeski"

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Originally Posted by B-string

Just saw a Double bass on Dave Letterman show using a 800RB. Never thought that would be a good match, but I was wrong!

petrus61 · #**870** 02-05-2013, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Chef

I haven't used one of those, for that.
I have used the little, older combo, long ago. Very mid present, if that's your thing...I like more phat.

I do use my MBFusion with DB, and that works nicely.
I haven't tried the 1001, but I bet I could get that workin' ok.

also: "Medeski"

Spell check! I've seen Chris use several configurations, notably the older MB(?) you mention as well. Last time I saw him in Woodstock at a smaller venue with his brother, he was using a Walter Woods head with a GK RBH 2x10 with his upright and it sounded great.

Vic · #**871** 02-05-2013, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by B-string

Just saw a Double bass on Dave Letterman show using a 800RB. Never thought that would be a good match, but I was wrong!

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Originally Posted by AdamR

When I was reading up n 800Rbs I did a search in the double bass forum by accident and came up with a surprising amount of hits

I've personally seen folks use the 800RB with upright and yeah, it is a good thing!

MOTORHEADBANGER · #**872** 02-05-2013, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by B-string

Just saw a Double bass on Dave Letterman show using a 800RB. Never thought that would be a good match, but I was wrong!

Yeah, I've met quite a few guys that love GK for double bass. There's just something about their presence and voicing that goes really well with piezo DB pickups. I seldom use an amp with mine, but the few times I did were with a 400RB and an MB500. I'm not sure why, but the EQ just works.

steve_rolfeca · #**873** 02-05-2013, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by AdamR

Is anyone running a DI or EQ pedal with there GK amp ? Im looking for something that wont color the tone but can dial in some mid punch.

If you don't want to color your sound, them you probably won't be happy with the M80, IME. Like the Samsamp, it definitely has it's own tonal color. The Hartke's variable scoop control isn't going to work either, as it's the opposite of what you're describing.

EbS and Carl Martin make fairly transparent preamp pedals with semi-parametric EQ, but they're expensive, and give a limited amount of control.

The Empress ParaEQ is equally spendy, but it's perfect for the job. The 3-way Q switches make it surprisingly easy to use for a full parametric.

Best of all, when you've dialed in that midrange punch, you've still got 2 EQ bands and a clean boost at your disposal.

If you're on a budget, Presonus EQ3B's are pretty good, and you can still find them used for well under $100...

scottfeldstein · #**874** 02-05-2013, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by AdamR

Right now Im leaning to the M80. I like that it has the distortion channel with a blend so I can add just a bit of grit if I want.

I wrote up a little review of it recently. Maybe it can help you decide if it's for you or not.

MXR M80 Bass DI+ review

Cney · #**875** 02-05-2013, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by petrus61

Is there some type of inexpensive line boost one could use?

You could try an mic/instrument pre-amp.
Or a cheap compressor pedal to boost the signal output.

But my guess would be a cheap DIY amplifier kit.
The small battery powered type ones you find at radio shack or something.

It only needs to supply +10db. so maybe a headphone amp kit or something similar would suffice.

http://www.conrad.nl/ce/nl/product/1...ersterker-B073

it's in dutch but you'll get my drift.
the cost is 6 euro's thats like 8 dollars or something

Cney · #**876** 02-05-2013, 11:02 AM

Ok people i finished my mod to my Backline 410 BLX-II

It looks and sounds fantastic.
More low and mid low definition with the Crossover and the horn makes the mid high and high more accurate.

I Call it the Backline 410 BLX-II Pro :P

petrus61 · #**877** 02-05-2013, 11:20 AM

Can anyone tell me how my GK horn is functioning when I use it full range with a non GK cab? I mean, the only difference is that I'm controlling it from behind instead of up front with the bi-amp controls, right?

Vic · #**878** 02-05-2013, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by petrus61

Can anyone tell me how my GK horn is functioning when I use it full range with a non GK cab? I mean, the only difference is that I'm controlling it from behind instead of up front with the bi-amp controls, right?

It's behaving just like any other cab with a horn. In full range mode, the input signal is passed to a crossover or at least a high pass filter, and then the attenuator, and then the horn. In bi-amp mode, I believe all that's bypassed and the signal present on +/-2 is passed directly to the horn (frequency range and and signal level controlled by the amp).

kleinenenten · #**879** 02-05-2013, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Cney

Ok people i finished my mod to my Backline 410 BLX-II

It looks and sounds fantastic.
More low and mid low definition with the Crossover and the horn makes the mid high and high more accurate.

I Call it the Backline 410 BLX-II Pro :P

Nice! I'd be interested in how to do that, I just scored a super cheap gray grilled 410BLX-II myself. How hard/expensive was it?

bassgod0dmw · #**880** 02-05-2013, 05:13 PM

Welp, my 400RB came. It's from January 1990, series 1, and in great shape. None of the cooling fins are bent, all the original knobs and caps, and barely a scratch on it. I was only able to play it for a few minutes, but it sounds awesome.

All for a super low price from GC used. Actually, lower than all in the classifieds by a good amount.

I'll get a family pic up soon enough.

EDIT: BOOM! Missing is my 2001 RB, it's sitting in storage right now.