Gallien Kreuger Official Club Part 7 - Page 48

gregmon79 · #**941** 02-08-2013, 09:55 PM

Thanks a bunch fellas, I do believe you both when you say it will help. I can tell quite a difference at a lower volume. I can't wait to try it out when i jam next.

petrus61 · #**942** 02-08-2013, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by gregmon79

Thanks a bunch fellas, I do believe you both when you say it will help. I can tell quite a difference at a lower volume. I can't wait to try it out when i jam next.

Another thing you may want to try is backing off the bass and treble on the BDDI just a tiny bit. This actually boosts the pedals pre-shaped mids.

Hnz · #**943** 02-09-2013, 12:51 AM

I'm considering buying a MB200 for practice purposes. Put it in my gig bag and I won't have to take my 400rb to the practice room all the time.
At home I have one cab, so that's obvious. But in the practice room I have two neo112's. Thus I wondered if and how I could connect them both to the one speaker output of the MB200.
So I send an email to GK and got a prompt answer:
"In order to run two cabs you will run a speakon cable from the head to the first cabinet and a 1/4" cable from the first cabinet to the second cabinet."
That's clear, but I also got intrigued by the answer, because upon it a few new questions popped into my head.
So I decided to ask them to the nice people of GK. Only thing is; They did not answer those...

Might any of you GK fans and perhaps tech heads could enlighten me. please? The questions are:
• Do I understand correctly that the 1/4" jack input on the NEO112 cab also acts as an output?
• Does it make any difference wether I connect the second cab with the speakon or the 1/4" jack input?
• If I am to connect the two cabs as you suggested, will the total electrical resistance be 8 or 4 ohm?

Thanks very much in advance!

steve_rolfeca · #**944** 02-09-2013, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Hnz

• Do I understand correctly that the 1/4" jack input on the NEO112 cab also acts as an output?
• Does it make any difference wether I connect the second cab with the speakon or the 1/4" jack input?
• If I am to connect the two cabs as you suggested, will the total electrical resistance be 8 or 4 ohm?

The Speakon and quarter inch jacks are simply connected in parallel, just like an older cab with two 1/4" jacks.

There's no in or out, they're just tied together, and the connection order doesn't matter.

Like any normal parallel connection, two 8-ohm cabs will combine for 4 ohms, two 4's will become 2...

Hnz · #**945** 02-09-2013, 07:41 AM

Thanks Steve for clearing that up.

And thank you Chef for confirming (I am smiling!)

kleinenenten · #**946** 02-09-2013, 09:46 AM

So, after playing my "new" Backline 600, that noise is still there a bit, but I've definitely discovered the problem. I have a 410BLX-II if it matters. The top left speaker is making the slight buzz. I took it out to check for loose bracing and everything seems solid. When I put just a bit of pressure on the cone, the buzzing lessens. I can get it to stop, but didn't want to harm the speaker. So is the speaker blown, should I get it re-coned, or what? I've never dealt with this before. Is there a way to safely keep a little pressure on the speaker? Thanks again, everyone.

scottfeldstein · #**947** 02-09-2013, 09:47 AM

Just a longshot, but... make sure there's no wire inside that's touching the cone.

kleinenenten · #**948** 02-09-2013, 09:54 AM

Will do!

UPDATE: Wires are touching the magnet, but not the cone. Does this matter at all? Also, two wires are wired to the cone.

Andyman001 · #**949** 02-09-2013, 10:43 AM

With the power off, Gently move the speaker in/out by hand. If you feel or hear any "scratching" the voice coil is rubbing and the speaker needs to be re coned.

kleinenenten · #**950** 02-09-2013, 11:00 AM

No scratching noises.

scottfeldstein · #**951** 02-09-2013, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by kleinenenten

Will do!

UPDATE: Wires are touching the magnet, but not the cone. Does this matter at all? Also, two wires are wired to the cone.

No, that sounds ok to me. I think.

B-string · #**952** 02-09-2013, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by kleinenenten

Will do!

UPDATE: Wires are touching the magnet, but not the cone. Does this matter at all? Also, two wires are wired to the cone.

The two flexible wire on the cone is how the power gets to the voice coil, they should not touch anything or each other.
Also make sure the wires going to the speaker basket (should be slip on connectors) are snug, they should not slip off easy.

kleinenenten · #**953** 02-09-2013, 11:11 AM

The wires are all connected securely. If it helps to know, I think it's part of the cabinet, and not the speaker at the moment. The noise doesn't get louder as volume increases, it stays constant. That's why I didn't hear it before, I had it up louder.

B-string · #**954** 02-09-2013, 11:39 AM

Ah, possibly a cab panel joint that needs some glue flowed into it.

kleinenenten · #**955** 02-09-2013, 11:52 AM

The cab seems solid, nothing is loose when I feel around it. It is, however, covered in stuff that looks like wool stuffing, so I couldn't do any visual checks.

kleinenenten · #**956** 02-09-2013, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BokiGroove

same thing with my GK NEO 112 II , significant buzz on low notes(B string) until I touch cone with finger, then buzz stop.

Yes, that's identical. It's only on the B string, and it's anything on that string. The G on my A string is fine, but on my B it's buzzy.

gregmon79 · #**957** 02-09-2013, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by petrus61

Another thing you may want to try is backing off the bass and treble on the BDDI just a tiny bit. This actually boosts the pedals pre-shaped mids.

Thank you much Petrus, I never knew that about the BDDI. I will def try this as well.

ljazz · #**958** 02-10-2013, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by gregmon79

Hello all. I am wondering, here are the settings I'm starting to find sound OK using my sans amp bass driver with my GK 1001 RB II. I'd really like to not use the bass driver but I've noticed that during practice I can't find a nice tone that rings through. In other words when I'm jamming I can't hear my tone, I just feel the bass and sorta hear some tone. But when I use the sans amps with it I can hear a little more tome in there. Obviously right? In other words I'm having some trouble finding some tone in the mix when jamming. It sounds wonderful when I'm alone in my room but when I'm playing at higher volumes, something gets lost in translation. Do any of you know what I mean? Can anyone help? Below are the settings I'm toying with. What am I doing wrong?

B-String is right on about the contour...... I would also suggest you back all of your eq knobs down too. Lows at about 11, low mid at noon to 1, hi mid at noon to 1, and hi's at 11. Make up the vol difference by bringing up the preamp gain a bit (the vol knob.... may not need to after rolling contour off). I also find that cranking up the boost to about 3:00 and coming off the master just a touch will give you a bit more harmonic distortion, and will get you sitting in the mix a little bit better. Also, can't tell in your photo, but try the string filter at 4 string.

kleinenenten · #**959** 02-10-2013, 12:48 PM

Is there any sort of generic footswitch that will work with a Backline 600?

TK4261 · #**960** 02-10-2013, 12:52 PM

After seeing Chef's 212 Neo cabs with the grills painted Black, I decided to paint my 412 Neo grills Black this weekend and they turned out great

I just put them back on today and IMO it looks much better