Gallien Kreuger Official Club Part 7 - Page 51

Andyman001 · #**1001** 02-13-2013, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by kleinenenten

Would this cable work?

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=100-485

Thanks again everyone! Best board on TB!

It is very easy, go for it

bassgod76 · #**1002** 02-13-2013, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by kleinenenten

OK, so total newbie to this. Here's what I'm picturing, tell me if I'm right on these steps:
1. Strip a bit of cable on each end
2. Put each color cable into matching spots on both ends (are there multiple colors, and is the speakon portion labelled somehow?)
3. Tighten cable portion of Speakon
4. Assemble remainder of Speakon

Is that pretty much it?

The speakon has each terminal labeled "+" or "-". If you buy cable that has red and black wires, the red goes to +, black to -.

Once you slide the stripped/bared wire tip into the terminal, you screw it down. Once both wire ends are secured to the terminals, you basically screw the back of the Speakon, on.

It's really not hard at all.

I do find that thicker cable (12 ga or thicker) is almost impossible to get into the reminal without the wire being frayed.

bassgod76 · #**1003** 02-13-2013, 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kleinenenten

Would this cable work?

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=100-485

Thanks again everyone! Best board on TB!

This is the cable that I use. Not sure why you would need 4 wires.
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=100-480

bassgod76 · #**1004** 02-13-2013, 06:32 AM

Here's the per foot price
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=100-482

kleinenenten · #**1005** 02-13-2013, 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bassgod76

The speakon has each terminal labeled "+" or "-". If you buy cable that has red and black wires, the red goes to +, black to -.

Once you slide the stripped/bared wire tip into the terminal, you screw it down. Once both wire ends are secured to the terminals, you basically screw the back of the Speakon, on.

It's really not hard at all.

I do find that thicker cable (12 ga or thicker) is almost impossible to get into the reminal without the wire being frayed.

OK, but my speakon is a 4 pin so I can biamp with my Neo 410. Will the + and - be labelled, since I'll need two of each? Or I'll probably be able to go by where the cable is attaching to the speakon for that, as in inner - and +, outer - and + ?

bassgod76 · #**1006** 02-13-2013, 06:34 AM

Question:
I love my MB200.
Doing a small to medium gig (typical bar), would the NEO 112 be sufficient?

I ask, because I own an SWR Workingman's 10, and it struggles with anything beyond a small three piece.

bassgod76 · #**1007** 02-13-2013, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by kleinenenten

OK, but my speakon is a 4 pin so I can biamp with my Neo 410. Will the + and - be labelled, since I'll need two of each? Or I'll probably be able to go by where the cable is attaching to the speakon for that, as in inner - and +, outer - and + ?

Yeah, they usually clearly label it, so a monkey could fabricate cables.

bassgod76 · #**1008** 02-13-2013, 06:38 AM

If you're doing 4 wire, you have selected the correct stuff.

kleinenenten · #**1009** 02-13-2013, 06:41 AM

Sweet, thanks again everyone! Off to order in some cable...

bassgod76 · #**1010** 02-13-2013, 06:42 AM

I want to say that the terminals are numbered so you know where each wire should go. It's easy, and less $$$

kleinenenten · #**1011** 02-13-2013, 06:57 AM

Alright, $20.01 later, I'm getting my cables. Almost exactly half what I would have paid for them from GK, and this includes shipping! Now to wait (not so) patiently for the cables and my cab to arrive...

bassgod76 · #**1012** 02-13-2013, 06:58 AM

Shipping is pretty fast, if I can recall. Good luck!

bassgod0dmw · #**1013** 02-13-2013, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by kleinenenten

OK, but my speakon is a 4 pin so I can biamp with my Neo 410. Will the + and - be labelled, since I'll need two of each? Or I'll probably be able to go by where the cable is attaching to the speakon for that, as in inner - and +, outer - and + ?

They will be labeled +1, -1, +2, -2

B-string · #**1014** 02-13-2013, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by bassgod0dmw

They will be labeled +1, -1, +2, -2

The ID's will be on the connectors inside the shell and are really small. 1+,1- will be the woofer, 2+,2- go to the horn. So long as each color wire goes to the same ID you are golden. Speakons are a wonderful invention!

bassgod0dmw · #**1015** 02-13-2013, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by B-string

Speakons are a wonderful invention!

Agreed. They are so easy to work with.

petrus61 · #**1016** 02-13-2013, 11:18 AM

Just ran my RB700II with the bi-amp Neo 1x15 in tandem with the full range Son of Bertha for the first time last night at rehearsal. Seemed to work fine and the band thought so to. One concern I had was that the Neo would be getting more power from the amp than the SWR, but there didn't seem to be any audible loss on that end...just another option! I love the fact that I can use the bi-amping and boost even when bypassing the GK's main pre with my para-driver. Are there any other amps that are capable of this much versatility? Wasn't sure if GK had the whole bi-amping market covered, or are there other makers that feature this? Can't wait to snatch up another Neo 1x15III. I know the RB700II is so beloved because of its ability to "hit the rails" better than the other RB's featuring more headroom. Next week I'm going to try my drummers series one RB700. It had its guts modified by GK to duplicate the later RB700II, with the exception of its power stage, which has slightly less headroom. Wondering if this amp is even more capable of "hitting the rails" in that awesome GK fashion.

ljazz · #**1017** 02-14-2013, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by petrus61

Just ran my RB700II with the bi-amp Neo 1x15 in tandem with the full range Son of Bertha for the first time last night at rehearsal. Seemed to work fine and the band thought so to. One concern I had was that the Neo would be getting more power from the amp than the SWR, but there didn't seem to be any audible loss on that end...just another option! I love the fact that I can use the bi-amping and boost even when bypassing the GK's main pre with my para-driver. Are there any other amps that are capable of this much versatility? Wasn't sure if GK had the whole bi-amping market covered, or are there other makers that feature this? Can't wait to snatch up another Neo 1x15III. I know the RB700II is so beloved because of its ability to "hit the rails" better than the other RB's featuring more headroom. Next week I'm going to try my drummers series one RB700. It had its guts modified by GK to duplicate the later RB700II, with the exception of its power stage, which has slightly less headroom. Wondering if this amp is even more capable of "hitting the rails" in that awesome GK fashion.

You may need to just run the 1 neo115. I can get there while pushing just a single 112..... but sometimes it's nice having a couple of cones pushing air. But then you're really starting to get loud with the 700rbII. I'm really loving my 400rb for those situations.

Tunaman · #**1018** 02-14-2013, 05:08 AM

You will LOVE having a 2nd GK NEO 115, having one up in the air really helps with the projection & you having a more accurate feeling for the tone.

I was playing my GK NEO 412 last night... man, that thing just kills... I know there are "new" amps that have extended lows etc but this thing was THUNDEROUS in the lows yesterday for reggae, dub. I couldn't see needing any more ever.

pan1k · #**1019** 02-14-2013, 09:42 AM

Off topic: The new Justin Timberlake video Suit and Tie.. Is that a pair of GK Neos I see in the background at 1:17?

Tunaman · #**1020** 02-14-2013, 09:43 AM

pan1k... still best avatar ever

Chef... part 8 !!!