Gallien Krueger Official Club, Pt 6 - Page 39

vin*tone · #**761** 11-09-2012, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by scottfeldstein

Do you think there are any downsides to stacking them on end like that, Chef? That does seem the way you'd want to do it, as it gets more height. But I wonder if they're meant to be used in a certain orientation...?

Yes. Your music will come out sideways.

scottfeldstein · #**762** 11-09-2012, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by vin*tone

Yes. Your music will come out sideways.

NOOOO!

**Chef** · #**763** 11-09-2012, 05:05 PM

I knew I was doing something wrong......

B-string · #**764** 11-09-2012, 07:03 PM

Dang it I was going to snap a pic of the NEO212 with the Fusion 550 (master barely on) at last night's gig. Too may bassists stopping by to talk about the rig

**Chef** · #**765** 11-09-2012, 08:46 PM

I can't photo from iPhone or I'd show you the 1001 2x112 on stage

sumgruuvz · #**766** 11-10-2012, 02:56 PM

mb800 and neo 4x10 8 ohm ordered. BAM! will be rocking it out soon gk style.

Tunaman · #**767** 11-10-2012, 03:30 PM

TK4261 · #**768** 11-12-2012, 08:50 AM

Has anyone seen or have tried out the new redesigned 410 MBE Series ll 800watt cabs? Just curious if the construction is better than the last MBE series. I do like the look of the new redesigned ones and I haven't decided to get one of those or a 410 NEO when I pick up a MB800 Fusion when they come out.

bassgod0dmw · #**769** 11-12-2012, 09:31 AM

I've been trying to find reviews in sound difference between the MB and RB series heads, but there aren't too many of them around.

I am in love with the tone of my 800RB, and loved my 2001RB as well. I'm looking to purchase a new gigging amp, mainly to retire the 800RB from gig duty. I was planning on grabbing a 700 or 1001 RB-II, but then I started looking at the MB500 and MB800.

I will gladly pick up an MB800 if it's going to get me the same tone as the RB series heads, but I keep reading about how the MB500 doesn't quite have the same "heft" to the notes as the RB series. I want that heft.

Can anybody comment of the MB800 in this regard?

2milehighspike · #**770** 11-12-2012, 06:44 PM

I have not used a RB head so I can't comment on the tone, but as far as the "heft" of the MB800, it will pour a 55 Gallon drum of heft anywhere you want!

sumgruuvz · #**771** 11-12-2012, 06:55 PM

quick question, the 4x10 neo says 800 watts. is that peak or rms?

scottfeldstein · #**772** 11-12-2012, 07:44 PM

B-string · #**773** 11-12-2012, 07:46 PM

The official word I have always been given is G-K rates amps and cabs in RMS.

sumgruuvz · #**774** 11-12-2012, 08:06 PM

thanks guys.

ljazz · #**775** 11-13-2012, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by bassgod0dmw

I've been trying to find reviews in sound difference between the MB and RB series heads, but there aren't too many of them around.

I am in love with the tone of my 800RB, and loved my 2001RB as well. I'm looking to purchase a new gigging amp, mainly to retire the 800RB from gig duty. I was planning on grabbing a 700 or 1001 RB-II, but then I started looking at the MB500 and MB800.

I will gladly pick up an MB800 if it's going to get me the same tone as the RB series heads, but I keep reading about how the MB500 doesn't quite have the same "heft" to the notes as the RB series. I want that heft.

Can anybody comment of the MB800 in this regard?

I haven't heard or played the mb800 yet, so I can't comment on it....... however, I have played the mb500 and the mb fusion....... I don't own either, but I do own the 700rbII, because neither of those micros measured up, IMHO.

bassgod0dmw · #**776** 11-13-2012, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ljazz

I haven't heard or played the mb800 yet, so I can't comment on it....... however, I have played the mb500 and the mb fusion....... I don't own either, but I do own the 700rbII, because neither of those micros measured up, IMHO.

That's what I'm afraid of. I'd like to carry a smaller and lighter amp, but not at the expense of tone.

**Chef** · #**777** 11-13-2012, 06:30 AM

Well now, I won't say "the MBFusion didn't measure up."
But, the MB heads certainly sound different that the RB heads; and I do own and use both.

The MB heads have deeper native lows, and more native treble extension, and are cleaner by nature. Whether this is good or bad will depend on your tone goals.

garagebassman · #**778** 11-13-2012, 08:32 AM

I am an MB500 user, but still love and occasionally use my older 400RB (86).
I do own but don't regularly use a 700RB II.

I feel that while there is more "heft" when A/B'ing the 700 to either of the other two, that the 500 has more than enough lows for me (eq'd flat), and project mids better than the 700 in general.

Also, considering the low end "roll off" of the early RB series heads which is a big part of their sound , I believe the MB (500 anyway) is much closer to the early RB's than the 700 or 1001.

bassgod0dmw · #**779** 11-13-2012, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Chef

Well now, I won't say "the MBFusion didn't measure up."
But, the MB heads certainly sound different that the RB heads; and I do own and use both.

The MB heads have deeper native lows, and more native treble extension, and are cleaner by nature. Whether this is good or bad will depend on your tone goals.

I'm never good at explaining tone, but I like what GK does in general. I always have, then I tried some new stuff, and now I'm back to GK.

I certainly don't mind a little GK grind in my tone, but overall I'd say it's fairly clean. If I want more grind, I'll grab a pick and go to town on some SS strings. I definitely don't need tons of lows, and I would play with newer RB's in 4 string mode.

I only have experience with the RB heads in a band environment, and they just always seem to deliver exactly what I want. I've had a few micro heads that sound great, but they just don't seem to have quite the same authority, heft, weight, beef, etc. to the notes as a regular ol' amp.

If one of their micros can deliver the same basic tone (which I understand that they do) with the same authority as the RB heads, I'd be happy to try it out. If not, I'm perfectly happy going for another RB. It would just be nice to have a smaller and lighter amp to carry around.

For reference, I'm getting some of this info from this thread:
GK 700RB-II vs MB500 or MBFusion

ksandvik · #**780** 11-13-2012, 11:40 AM

I like pushing an RB to the edge, that's where you get the rail sound. For MBs, you have a more linear response across the volume ranges. And with MB Fusion you get tube saturation to any level you want. Anyway, dancing about architecture.

PS: Due to the clean to tube full saturation case I got an MBFusion as I need flexibility with my rig.