Gallien Krueger Official Club, Pt 6 - Page 46

scottfeldstein · #**901** 11-20-2012, 12:34 PM

The 212-II stacks width-wise on my 410 MBX. That is, the front cleats lock in, but the cab isn't deep enough for the back ones to do so.

spcmstrbtasp · #**902** 11-20-2012, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bassgod0dmw

I gigged my MB500 for the first time this weekend. I paired it up with my usual bag End S15D's and grabbed a P and a J bass.

That little sucker it loud! Not that my band is that loud IMO, but the master was barely at 9:00. I guess that's the story with most GK heads though. It's just funny to look back at my other band where I was cranking a 2001RB into an 810 just to keep up with the guitars.

Just curious- where were your Input Gain and Boost set? I use that same combination (MB500 and S15Ds +Jazz bass), but I like the response in the gain if I used the input pad engaged. That way though, its not as loud, and I have to run the master past noon with a band. I haven't found a way to run the input pad off, and still get the dynamic response that allows me to dig in when needed and still sound good, yet loud.

It may be my right hand technique though. I tend to play lightly most of the time. A great player sat in on my rig recently and I was astonished at how much louder he was than I am with the settings unchanged. "sound is in the hands...more than anything else"

Vic · #**903** 11-20-2012, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GRoberts

Valid input too Ken. But which 'Neo' 2x12 are you referring?

I would suggest the current Neo212 cab. Gives you three options... the 2x112 thing you'd use most of the time, a 212/112 option, and a 212 option, though IMHO, the 212 is big enough that I find the 2x112 actually easier to schlepp overall, so I rarely use my 212 (yes, I have one of those, too).

suvdecropp · #**904** 11-20-2012, 02:22 PM

B-string, thanks for your help...

KJung · #**905** 11-20-2012, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Vic

I would suggest the current Neo212 cab. Gives you three options... the 2x112 thing you'd use most of the time, a 212/112 option, and a 212 option, though IMHO, the 212 is big enough that I find the 2x112 actually easier to schlepp overall, so I rarely use my 212 (yes, I have one of those, too).

Looks like that 212 is only available in 8ohms (might be reading the spec's wrong... just took a glance at it). If that is the case, not optimal for adding a 112 (the single 12 driver will get twice the wattage of each of the drivers in the 212. With the 800 series MB amp, plenty of wump though with the 8ohm 212.

CorryJobin · #**906** 11-20-2012, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Chef

I'm betting this is a "nearfield/proximity thing" and that you probably don't "need 412's."

I think you are probably right, but it feels so good standing in front of them. 😎

Vic · #**907** 11-20-2012, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KJung

Looks like that 212 is only available in 8ohms (might be reading the spec's wrong...

Yep... right from their web site... asterisk means "available in 4 or 8 ohm".

**Chef** · #**908** 11-20-2012, 03:09 PM

I can't argue that.

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Originally Posted by CorryJobin

I think you are probably right, but it feels so good standing in front of them. 😎

GRoberts · #**909** 11-20-2012, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Vic

Yep... right from their web site... asterisk means "available in 4 or 8 ohm".

Based on the size and weight that I see for the NEO II 1x12, the Baer ML112's are roughly the same size and within a few pounds. Hmmm. More Money, but very possibly more performance in ways I would like. Hmmm.

sumgruuvz · #**910** 11-20-2012, 03:29 PM

i got the mb800 dialed in the eq and man with my spector, it sounds badass! such a great amp. now to see how long it lasts

Vic · #**911** 11-20-2012, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GRoberts

...very possibly more performance in ways I would like.

Just curious, in what ways?

GRoberts · #**912** 11-20-2012, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Vic

Just curious, in what ways?

From what I understand, the ML112 stands alone as a very impressive single 1x12 where I've read the GK Neo II 1x12's make a great stacked 'pair', but one NEO II 1x12 cab might leave me wanting?

Also, I believe you are well acquainted with Bass Gear Magazine. Right?

The review I just read of the ML112 was quite impressive.

**Chef** · #**913** 11-20-2012, 03:37 PM

Dude, just come to my house and play them both.

Bring beer.

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Originally Posted by GRoberts

Based on the size and weight that I see for the NEO II 1x12, the Baer ML112's are roughly the same size and within a few pounds. Hmmm. More Money, but very possibly more performance in ways I would like. Hmmm.

GRoberts · #**914** 11-20-2012, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Chef

Dude, just come to my house and play them both.

Bring beer.

That is a VERY tempting offer. I'm sure we'd have some laughs! I'll be right over. Let's see, how many thousand mile drive is it? Might get there in time for leftover thanksgiving sandwiches

**Chef** · #**915** 11-20-2012, 03:40 PM

IMO, fwiw; "a good 112 is a good 112."

If you're wishing for more out of your favorite 210, or current "standard" 112/115; no "supercab" is going to solve that for you.

Strictly my opinion there.

I'm a long time "two small cabs stacked vertical user;''
for several reasons.
Less strain on the cab(s), easier to move than one bigger one, better nearfield monitoring for me.

I'll take any of my 112's to rehearsal, or, a small jazz gig.
Beyond that, I'm always taking two.
Always.

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Originally Posted by GRoberts

From what I understand, the ML112 stands alone as a very impressive single 1x12 where I've read the GK Neo II 1x12's make a great stacked 'pair', but one NEO II 1x12 cab might leave me wanting?

Also, I believe you are well acquainted with Bass Gear Magazine. Right?

The review I just read of the ML112 was quite impressive.

**Chef** · #**916** 11-20-2012, 03:42 PM

I'm smoking a turkey.
I usually do mole or enchiladas with leftovers, but I can hold enough for a sammich.

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Originally Posted by GRoberts

That is a VERY tempting offer. I'm sure we'd have some laughs! I'll be right over. Let's see, how many thousand mile drive is it? Might get there in time for leftover thanksgiving sandwiches

GRoberts · #**917** 11-20-2012, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Chef

IMO, fwiw; "a good 112 is a good 112."

If you're wishing for more out of your favorite 210, or current "standard" 112/115; no "supercab" is going to solve that for you.

Strictly my opinion there.

I'm a long time "two small cabs stacked vertical user;''
for several reasons.
Less strain on the cab(s), easier to move than one bigger one, better nearfield monitoring for me.

I'll take any of my 112's to rehearsal, or, a small jazz gig.
Beyond that, I'm always taking two.
Always.

Point well taken. I like the stacked pair as well. So the price point makes the NEO II's very compelling with size/weight being very similar. My ears may find a horn loaded 1x12 more familiar. Not necessarily better. Just more familiar. So who knows. As Vic pointed out, The Neo II's can be had quite reasonably ...and from places with very liberal return policies. So in that regard, makes for a relatively risk free test drive. Hmmm

GRoberts · #**918** 11-20-2012, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Chef

I'm smoking a turkey.
I usually do mole or enchiladas with leftovers, but I can hold enough for a sammich.

I tried to smoke a Turkey once, but I couldn't keep it lit and it made my head feel kinda funny.

**Chef** · #**919** 11-20-2012, 03:47 PM

^^^^Aye.

scottfeldstein · #**920** 11-20-2012, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Chef

I'm smoking a turkey.

Ok, forget cabs--now you got my attention. You live where? I'll be there with proper Wisconsin beer like you've never tasted.