Gallien Krueger Official Club, Pt 6 - Page 49

tank73 · #**961** 12-02-2012, 04:15 PM

Recieved a new amp yesterday GK1001 RBII, deal that was too good to turn down. I used it at Church today, was asked to turn it down several times

My lineup is now the GK1001 RBII, 700RBII and a MB200. I may have finally bought my last amp.... But there are always cabinets and basses. lol

Chico16 · #**962** 12-02-2012, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by tank73

Recieved a new amp yesterday GK1001 RBII, deal that was too good to turn down. I used it at Church today, was asked to turn it down several times

My lineup is now the GK1001 RBII, 700RBII and a MB200. I may have finally bought my last amp.... But there are always cabinets and basses. lol

I.... Envy you 😭

Pedulla-Player · #**963** 12-02-2012, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GRoberts

From what I understand, the ML112 stands alone as a very impressive single 1x12 where I've read the GK Neo II 1x12's make a great stacked 'pair', but one NEO II 1x12 cab might leave me wanting?

Also, I believe you are well acquainted with Bass Gear Magazine. Right?

The review I just read of the ML112 was quite impressive.

I've kinda been intrigued by GK amps and cabs since I saw Pinbacks bassist (Zach Smith) use them at a show 2 weeks ago in Madison , WI. He sounded friggin' amazing!! He was using an 800RB and two GK cabs (410 and 115) , but I don't know what model cabs he was using (they looked like older models to me). I should have asked him because I met him after the show and we talked a little bass talk. Super nice guy by the way (and awesome bassist!!).
I used GK amps for several years in the late 80's through about 2005. I went from an 800RB to a 1001RB and finally the 2001RB. Not really sure why I decided to go away from GK , but I did blow up my 800RB once , but that may have been my fault by running improper speaker Ohms (when I first started playing in the late 80's).
Kinda impressed with what you guys have been saying about the GK112's. I've looked them up on musicians friend but I don't see the ML112 mentioned above on Musicians friend's site. I only saw the MB112-II and the Neo 112-II.
I currently use an GB Uber410 cab , but I had back surgery a few months back and have been seriously contemplating downsizing to two 112's or a 112 and a 115 cab. The Neo 112's and 115's look pretty sweet. Anybody pair a Neo 112 and a Neo 115 together?
Thanks ,
P-P

GRoberts · #**964** 12-02-2012, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedulla-Player

I've kinda been intrigued by GK amps and cabs since I saw Pinbacks bassist (Zach Smith) use them at a show 2 weeks ago in Madison , WI. He sounded friggin' amazing!! He was using an 800RB and two GK cabs (410 and 115) , but I don't know what model cabs he was using (they looked like older models to me). I should have asked him because I met him after the show and we talked a little bass talk. Super nice guy by the way (and awesome bassist!!).
I used GK amps for several years in the late 80's through about 2005. I went from an 800RB to a 1001RB and finally the 2001RB. Not really sure why I decided to go away from GK , but I did blow up my 800RB once , but that may have been my fault by running improper speaker Ohms (when I first started playing in the late 80's).
Kinda impressed with what you guys have been saying about the GK112's. I've looked them up on musicians friend but I don't see the ML112 mentioned above on Musicians friend's site. I only saw the MB112-II and the Neo 112-II.
I currently use an GB Uber410 cab , but I had back surgery a few months back and have been seriously contemplating downsizing to two 112's or a 112 and a 115 cab. The Neo 112's and 115's look pretty sweet. Anybody pair a Neo 112 and a Neo 115 together?
Thanks ,
P-P

The ML112 is a Baer cabinet, not GK. that's why.

Vic · #**965** 12-02-2012, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedulla-Player

...I had back surgery a few months back and have been seriously contemplating downsizing to two 112's or a 112 and a 115 cab. The Neo 112's and 115's look pretty sweet. Anybody pair a Neo 112 and a Neo 115 together?
Thanks ,
P-P

I have paired the 112/115 Neo cabs, and while it sounds great, I still think it'd be best for you to at least try the 2x112 stack first. I know I'm like the 2x112 foghorn in this thread, but it's really a surprisingly effective rig even if it wasn't as ridiculously easy to move as it is.

scottfeldstein · #**966** 12-02-2012, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedulla-Player

Anybody pair a Neo 112 and a Neo 115 together?

I'm actually thinking of pairing a Neo 15 atop my Neo 212.

Pedulla-Player · #**967** 12-02-2012, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by GRoberts

The ML112 is a Baer cabinet, not GK. that's why.

I missed (overlooked) that part of the discussion. Thanks for the heads up.

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Originally Posted by Vic

I have paired the 112/115 Neo cabs, and while it sounds great, I still think it'd be best for you to at least try the 2x112 stack first. I know I'm like the 2x112 foghorn in this thread, but it's really a surprisingly effective rig even if it wasn't as ridiculously easy to move as it is.

Thanks Vic. I was a little worried that the 2x112's would be a little light in the low end. Kinda funny thinking coming from a 410 guy.

Ridiculously easy to move is a good thing in my book.

Pedulla-Player · #**968** 12-02-2012, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by scottfeldstein

I'm actually thinking of pairing a Neo 15 atop my Neo 212.

That sounds like it would be pretty devastating
!! Hey Scott. If you do that - let me know how it works for you. Where do you purchase you GK gear from? Uncle Bobs?? Let me know , so if I decide to make the trip (wouldn't be for a couple of months thou) I'll tell them you recommended them to me.

Vic · #**969** 12-02-2012, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedulla-Player

Thanks Vic. I was a little worried that the 2x112's would be a little light in the low end. Kinda funny thinking coming from a 410 guy.

Ridiculously easy to move is a good thing in my book.

IMHO, they're surprisingly not, and it's been mentioned in this thread before, but bears repeating, the 115's are not the usual fare. They have a lot more mid presence and are almost more like a louder 12 than a "deeper" one. They do have a bit more depth of course, but it's not as big of a difference as with other manufacturers. GK is all about cutting mixes, and the voicing of these cabs makes that clear.

Epitaph04 · #**970** 12-02-2012, 07:30 PM

Yeah I remember the first time I hooked up my 700rb was on a NEO15 at a GC...holy crap that thing was bright!

Weird because the times I've played the MB115 its been very boomy with very little mid presence no matter what Ive done.

Pedulla-Player · #**971** 12-02-2012, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Vic

IMHO, they're surprisingly not, and it's been mentioned in this thread before, but bears repeating, the 115's are not the usual fare. They have a lot more mid presence and are almost more like a louder 12 than a "deeper" one. They do have a bit more depth of course, but it's not as big of a difference as with other manufacturers. GK is all about cutting mixes, and the voicing of these cabs makes that clear.

I'll read through this thread a bit more so i don't ask redundant questions. Thanks for the advice on my questions.

scottfeldstein · #**972** 12-02-2012, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedulla-Player

Hey Scott. If you do that - let me know how it works for you. Where do you purchase you GK gear from? Uncle Bobs?? Let me know , so if I decide to make the trip (wouldn't be for a couple of months thou) I'll tell them you recommended them to me.

If I do it it'll probably be around tax return time. And I'll definitely be posting the results (with pics) here.

No, I hardly go into Uncle Bob's these days. I bought the new Neo 212 from Guitar Center online and I bought the used MBX 410 used from the Brookfield store.

Pedulla-Player · #**973** 12-02-2012, 07:46 PM

Hey Scott. I wish I could have made the GTG to try out your MB500. Never heard a GK MB series amp before.

Vic · #**974** 12-02-2012, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedulla-Player

I'll read through this thread a bit more so i don't ask redundant questions. Thanks for the advice on my questions.

That actually was not a passive aggressive slap (I don't personally like it when people do that here)... I only meant to say that it's been a point of particular interest here before, so it's notable.

Pedulla-Player · #**975** 12-02-2012, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Vic

That actually was not a passive aggressive slap (I don't personally like it when people do that here)... I only meant to say that it's been a point of particular interest here before, so it's notable.

No offense taken.

I'm just sure that I could probably answer all of my own questions if I read through the thread a bit more. It's just a long thread... Been good reading so far thou.

Actually - looks like it will be time for a new thread soon. Getting close to 1000 posts in this one.

Pedulla-Player · #**976** 12-02-2012, 08:12 PM

I did a little searching through my old gig photos and the only photo I found of one of my GK amps was from 2004. The photo was of my old drummer and his poopy birthday cake. I think it was my 2001RB , but it's hard to tell with my beer , soda , and RUSH bobble heads in the way. lol

**Chef** · #**977** 12-02-2012, 08:16 PM

I'll throw another GK Neo 2x112 point of view out:
In the last year or two, I've spent a literal boat load of cash trying to find anything I like better.

I haven't found anything I like better.
I have found stuff I like pretty much as well, stuff I'll keep; and a whole Ryder box truck of stuff that's moved on.

I don't play in the loudest band/s in the world.
The two main bands I play with use the same Bose 2 Sticks/2 Subs pa, and the 2x112 is more than plenty to fill the club against that.
Some clubs we play have their own FOH, and in those cases, it's better yet, because then they only have to act as my personal stage monitor, which they're way, way overqualified for.

I always, always run them vertical
I really like having the taller rig up closer to ear level, for me, and I've been playing two tall stacks for a long time for this reason.

For me, and my preferred tone, it's "not that GK is a great buy, and works pretty well," it's that "GK works great, and it's a pretty good buy."

Depending what you, personally, like or don't like, there can be two cons to the GK Neo stuff:
-the horns are bright. so, if you don't dig that, you can turn the attenuators down, and/or trim treble at the head. or turn them off, the woofers are good for 5khz or so
-they're "not dub-tastic." If you need a Dub-Load of MegaFat low end, they're not that. This isn't to say they're bass-shy, they're just not bass heavy.

For me, they're really just right.

I mostly use the MBFusion 500, but, I have the 1001RBII, and that whole biamp thing is very cool. Send some grit to the paper cones, and send a clean signal from the dedicated horn amp to the horns. Kinda gritty and hi-fi at the same time. Sweet.

Pedulla-Player · #**978** 12-02-2012, 08:26 PM

Thanks for the insight Chef. Very informative!
While I do love my Uber410 I think it's voiced a little too much in the low end for my liking and I have a hard time hearing myself at some gigs. Sitting on the ground way below head level doesn't help much either. 2x112's stacked vertically would probably cure those problems for me. Unfortunately , it will be a couple months before I'll be able to make the switch because of the holidays , taxes , ect...

After seeing Chef put up his Mesa M9 for sale because he loves his MB fusion so much I've been pretty intrigued by this amp. It must sound killer to upstage the M9! I really liked the sound of my old M9 , but it was very heavy in the Mesa head case and it was just too loud. Not that loud is bad , but it had no quiet setting. It went from off to loud and beyond!
The only concerns about the fusion for me is the 500 watts. I've only gigged one amp smaller than 800 watts , and that was an Markbass F5 (500 watts). The F5 just didn't have enough oomph for my larger and outdoor gigs , so I sold it. I know different companies seem to rate watts differently (example Mesa M9 was louder than a 1200 watt amp that I used to own!!). Does the MB fusion 500 handle larger gigs?? I'm really gun shy to go with an amp with less than 800 watts.
I've also been kinda intrigued by the MB800 , but I've read a few mixed reviews about the MB800. Most of the bad comments were about the loud fan and no ground lift switch for the XLR out.

pan1k · #**979** 12-03-2012, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Pedulla-Player

Thanks for the insight Chef. Very informative!
While I do love my Uber410 I think it's voiced a little too much in the low end for my liking and I have a hard time hearing myself at some gigs. Sitting on the ground way below head level doesn't help much either. 2x112's stacked vertically would probably cure those problems for me. Unfortunately , it will be a couple months before I'll be able to make the switch because of the holidays , taxes , ect...

After seeing Chef put up his Mesa M9 for sale because he loves his MB fusion so much I've been pretty intrigued by this amp. It must sound killer to upstage the M9! I really liked the sound of my old M9 , but it was very heavy in the Mesa head case and it was just too loud. Not that loud is bad , but it had no quiet setting. It went from off to loud and beyond!
The only concerns about the fusion for me is the 500 watts. I've only gigged one amp smaller than 800 watts , and that was an Markbass F5 (500 watts). The F5 just didn't have enough oomph for my larger and outdoor gigs , so I sold it. I know different companies seem to rate watts differently (example Mesa M9 was louder than a 1200 watt amp that I used to own!!). Does the MB fusion 500 handle larger gigs?? I'm really gun shy to go with an amp with less than 800 watts.
I've also been kinda intrigued by the MB800 , but I've read a few mixed reviews about the MB800. Most of the bad comments were about the loud fan and no ground lift switch for the XLR out.

Chef speaks the truth. I first got an mb800 and it was so much power i was scared I'd blow up the different cabs input it through. Then I returned and found a MB fusion in the classifieds. I love it. It gets redicukously loud with such clarity. I run it through an mbe 212 at 8ohms eventually I want to get either a second 212 or 2 single 12s like Chef. I'm thinking the latter once tax season arrives. I hope with the release of the new sleek ones, the old neo 12s go down in price. Try it out. A superior product. I feel so lucky to have found my sound at a younger age.

ljazz · #**980** 12-03-2012, 02:45 AM

I've been running the 2 x 112 (series 1) config with my 400rb (original version), and it is stellar sounding! Very loud (200 watts.... really?), and very sexy looking. I may have to keep my 700rbII packed away for those occassions when I run the 112x212 rig. It's pretty tough to top the tone you get out of the 112's. Heck, even the 700rbII with just a 112 sounds sweet..... I love pushing the 112 a little bit.... gets as throaty as he** and sounds fantastic. I bet 75% of my gigs over the last 5 years have been with the 700rbII and just a 112.