GB Shuttlemax part II - Page 7

dukeorock · #**121** 11-26-2012, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by kerrycares

My 12.0 is pushing a Aguilar GS412 and I love it!
I tried the 12.2 but preferred the 12.0.
Now I'm looking for a 9.0.

Question, is there any benefit to alternating between the two power amp if you are only using one cab?

I have a 12.0 and a 9.2...as far as I know the two poweramps sound identical on the 12.0

KJung · #**122** 11-26-2012, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by kerrycares

My 12.0 is pushing a Aguilar GS412 and I love it!
I tried the 12.2 but preferred the 12.0.
Now I'm looking for a 9.0.

Question, is there any benefit to alternating between the two power amp if you are only using one cab?

No. The only reason to own a 12 or 12.2 is if you have a 2ohm situation (i.e., two 4 ohm cabs). With a single 8 ohm cab, or a single 4ohm cab, the Max 9.2 will give you identical tone and singificanly more headroom. With two 8ohm cabs, the 12/12.2 and the Max 9.2 will perform similarly.

The Shuttle 9 is a different sounding amp altogether, with MUCH less EQ control.

Edit: Did you try the 12 and 12.2 in the same room at the same time through the same cab? Man, if you prefer one to the other, you have amazing ears. The .2 will be a slight amount fatter when really pushed, but otherwise, they should be pretty much identical. The gain structure is a bit different, so they will sound a touch different with the gain/volume set the same.

**AmazingMumford** · #**123** 11-26-2012, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by KJung

Did you try the 12 and 12.2 in the same room at the same time through the same cab? Man, if you prefer one to the other, you have amazing ears. The .2 will be a slight amount fatter when really pushed, but otherwise, they should be pretty much identical. The gain structure is a bit different, so they will sound a touch different with the gain/volume set the same.

Well, there is also that all-important updated color scheme on the 12.2...and the Aux In is TRS (mixed to mono), rather than just mono...and the peak LED comes after the 3DPM module, rather than before the limiter...and...that's about it.

This coming from the 12.0 owner who will admit to having eyed Alphaman's 12.2 that was listed 1.5 hours ago.

Doug Parent · #**124** 11-27-2012, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by AmazingMumford

Well, there is also that all-important updated color scheme on the 12.2...and the Aux In is TRS (mixed to mono), rather than just mono..

Really? Aux in is TRS which then becomes mono internally?

Excellent! I've been using an adaptor Y cord all this time...

**AmazingMumford** · #**125** 11-27-2012, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug Parent

Really? Aux in is TRS which then becomes mono internally?

Excellent! I've been using an adaptor Y cord all this time...

That's what I've been doing with the 12.0, too. I just happened to study the block circuit diagram for the 12.2 closely one day...oddly, the 9.2 diagram doesn't show the same input. Maybe it has been updated? Ol' Hoss?

**Spfairchild** · #**126** 11-27-2012, 04:41 PM

The manual for the 9.2 does indeed say that it accepts a stereo aux input and sums to mono! Pretty cool, if you ask me. Works very well, and doesn't affect my input signal near as I can tell. The Eden that I just sold had big issues in this arena (the design, not the specific amp itself).

Doug Parent · #**127** 11-27-2012, 05:08 PM

I have the Shuttlemax 9.2 so I assume it is similarity equipped.

Tunaman · #**128** 11-27-2012, 05:10 PM

If anybody passes on that 12.2max they are insane, period! GET IT !

Doug Parent · #**129** 11-27-2012, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Tunaman

If anybody passes on that 12.2max they are insane, period! GET IT !

Tuna stop beating around the bush and say what you mean

Neil · #**130** 11-27-2012, 07:05 PM

I called Genz Benz tonight to ask a question. Unfortunately it was after hours. To my surprise their outgoing message identified them as "Fender Musical Instruments". Can someone PLEASE bring me up to date on happened? Is Jeff still associated with the company? Will GB still be producing new products. This is REALLY disappointing.

sunbeast · #**131** 11-27-2012, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Neil

I called Genz Benz tonight to ask a question. Unfortunately it was after hours. To my surprise their outgoing message identified them as "Fender Musical Instruments". Can someone PLEASE bring me up to date on happened? Is Jeff still associated with the company? Will GB still be producing new products. This is REALLY disappointing.

Just heard that Genz Benz is now Fender owned...is this true?

They have been under the same umbrella as Fender for years, but still their "own" company. They haven't been an independent company for a long time now...

**johndough247** · #**132** 11-28-2012, 04:50 AM

Just chiming in; still lovin' my GB 12.2/Aggie SL112 x 2 rig after half a year of gigs...with one cab it's more than enough power for my rehearsals (including a 30 piece jazz big band), and with 2, it's held up fairly well in shows....so easy to dial in different tones, the gain staging does make a world of difference.

Question (not sure if it's been asked in the first thread): Has anyone noticed an appreciable difference in tone when wiring 1 8 ohm cab to each power amp vs. wiring them both to one power amp (besides any extra volume the additional 150W would get you in the first example)?

dukeorock · #**133** 11-28-2012, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by johndough247

Just chiming in; still lovin' my GB 12.2/Aggie SL112 x 2 rig after half a year of gigs...with one cab it's more than enough power for my rehearsals (including a 30 piece jazz big band), and with 2, it's held up fairly well in shows....so easy to dial in different tones, the gain staging does make a world of difference.

Question (not sure if it's been asked in the first thread): Has anyone noticed an appreciable difference in tone when wiring 1 8 ohm cab to each power amp vs. wiring them both to one power amp (besides any extra volume the additional 150W would get you in the first example)?

No tone difference that I've ever noticed...I like all the headroom I can get, so I'd use both amps

**Horny Toad** · #**134** 11-30-2012, 02:20 PM

I recently purchased a ShuttleMax 9.2 (LOVE IT!) that came with a Genz ShuttleMax Carry Bag. My amp is racked so I have no use for the bag. First person who replies and wants it - it's yours for free, shipped. Continental U.S. TB members only.

Don't have a pic, but this is the bag. It's still in the plastic, untouched. http://www.theperfectbass.com/Genz-B...-Carry-Bag.htm

Merry early Christmas.

**Spfairchild** · #**135** 11-30-2012, 02:21 PM

I'll take it!

**Spfairchild** · #**136** 11-30-2012, 02:22 PM

Thank you!! And thanks for that GIF, too

**Horny Toad** · #**137** 11-30-2012, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Spfairchild

Thank you!! And thanks for that GIF, too

It's my pleasure. PM me your shipping info and it'll be on its way tomorrow.

DeadHeadSF · #**138** 12-04-2012, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Horny Toad

I recently purchased a ShuttleMax 9.2 (LOVE IT!) that came with a Genz ShuttleMax Carry Bag. My amp is racked so I have no use for the bag. First person who replies and wants it - it's yours for free, shipped. Continental U.S. TB members only.

Don't have a pic, but this is the bag. It's still in the plastic, untouched. http://www.theperfectbass.com/Genz-B...-Carry-Bag.htm

Merry early Christmas.

Hmm.. did yours come with the bag direct from GB? I bought mine new and they tried to sell me the bag (which I didn't buy). I don't need it right now anyway, but might in the future. If it was supposed to come with it, I'll take a trip back to the music shop where I bought the amp and give 'em hell.

**Horny Toad** · #**139** 12-04-2012, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DeadHeadSF

Hmm.. did yours come with the bag direct from GB?

No.

wcriley · #**140** 12-04-2012, 04:25 PM

Some retailers offer package deals that include the bag at a slightly reduced price, some do not.