Genz Benz 210 combo - adding a GB410T cab?

[geoff_in_nc]

I've got a Genz Benz ML200-210T combo now that I like quite a bit, and have found a Genz Benz GB410T cabinet on CL that I'm thinking of picking up.

Can anyone tell me if these two will match up decently tonally?

I'm told that the 410 is 8 ohms, and rear ported.

[BassmanPaul]

What is the minimum impedance of the combo and what are the impedances of the internal drivers? You need to know this before you buy anything.

[RickenBoogie]

*If* the combo is 4 ohms minimum, and *if* the internal 210's are 8 ohms, you'd want another 8 ohm 2x10 as an ext cab, though the 410 *could* work. The problem with mixing a 210 and 410 is the same as the dreaded 410 with a 15 scenario- the 410 is much more capable, leaving the 210 as the limiting factor of the rig. Both cabs get equal power, but the smaller one reaches it's maximim limits well before the bigger cab does. Hence, matched cabs for the win./

[geoff_in_nc]

The combo has 2x 4 ohm min power amps with separate outputs bridgeable into an 8 ohm min output. If you think of the combo's speakers as a 210 cabinet, they are an 8 ohm entity, and standard it runs its speakers into the bridged mode. So I'd unbridge the outputs and plug the combo's speakers into one side and the cabinet into the other.

I'm probably not explaining the concept well, but here's what the manual says

POWER AMPLIFIER/SPEAKER OUTPUTS – The ML 200 features our DUAL OUTPUT DESIGN, which
contains two separate advanced monolithic power amplifier circuits ...... Output is rated at 100 watts per channel into 4 ohms (dual mode), and 200 watts into 8
ohms (bridged mono mode)........ With the Mode
Switch in the dual position, only the dual speaker jacks are active. Speaker Outputs: With the Mode Switch in the
bridged mono position only the bridged mono jack is active. ....... The amplifier comes from the factory in
the mono-bridged 200 watt mode.

EDITED TO ADD: I realize this will give me actually less than 200 watts output into 210 + 410, but my thought is I'm looking for a little more body, not so much tons more volume at the moment. That could change, and I'd then probably add a more powerful head somewhere down the line.

[agedhorse]

You understand the concept corrrectly, and this is exactly what this feature was designed for. A very common combination for this combo was a single 15" cabinet that got left at the gig (say a church or regular club/theatre venue) and the 210 combo traveled with the player for practice etc. At the gig, the amp was operated in dual mode primarily for the desired tonal goals that the different cabinets bring to the table as well as the increased low end extension that coupling will generate. We sold an awful lot of these combos and I get user comments/questions all the time about unique applications.

Originally Posted by geoff_in_nc

The combo has 2x 4 ohm min power amps with separate outputs bridgeable into an 8 ohm min output. If you think of the combo's speakers as a 210 cabinet, they are an 8 ohm entity, and standard it runs its speakers into the bridged mode. So I'd unbridge the outputs and plug the combo's speakers into one side and the cabinet into the other.

I'm probably not explaining the concept well, but here's what the manual says


EDITED TO ADD: I realize this will give me actually less than 200 watts output into 210 + 410, but my thought is I'm looking for a little more body, not so much tons more volume at the moment. That could change, and I'd then probably add a more powerful head somewhere down the line.

[geoff_in_nc]

Thank you agedhorse.... it's always appreciated to get the info .... erm.... direct from the horse's mouth?
(I bet you've never gotten that one before... )

Does anyone know, would the combo plus this 410 have compatible tonal profiles? I can't seem to find any info on this cab at all.... just the UB or XB series cabs.