Genz Benz 212T - Uber or NeoX series?

tcydennis · #1 01-04-2012, 11:29 AM

I am helping our church to source for a new amp and cab. We have tried the Genz Benz Streamliner 900/ Shuttle 9.0 into the Uber 212T. Unfortunately our local store does not have stock of the NeoX 212T for comparison before making a decision (though they could bring in if we want).

Just wanted to hear your opinions on the comparison / preference between the 2 cabinet series? Which should we go for?

stflbn · #2 01-04-2012, 11:50 AM

IMHO the 212T is tighter, wider and more modern sounding. Very tight defined low end on it.

RickenBoogie · #3 01-04-2012, 12:08 PM

The Ubers are less modern sounding, but still tight down low.

steve_rolfeca · #4 01-04-2012, 12:13 PM

The Uber is less scooped, in other words.

dog1 · #5 01-04-2012, 06:20 PM

Both are excellent choices. I personally like the 212T

tcydennis · #6 01-07-2012, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by dog1

Both are excellent choices. I personally like the 212T

thks. you mean you prefer the Uber 212T or Neo X 212T?

Duckwater · #7 01-07-2012, 10:14 AM

My preference skews towards the 212T

packhowitzer · #8 01-07-2012, 10:17 AM

I have two of the 212Ts. They really are amazing cabs imo. Even though I've always had a jones for the uber, I used mesa powerhouse 4x10s for my big gigs and either one or two 212t's for my smaller gigs. the uber would kind of overlap the mesas' functionality for me. so the 212t is where it's at! ymmv

dog1 · #9 01-07-2012, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by tcydennis

thks. you mean you prefer the Uber 212T or Neo X 212T?

NeoX 212T. One of my all time favorites.

Alphaman · #10 01-07-2012, 11:55 AM

NeoX212 is one of my favorites! I had the Uber212 and an Uber410 and I just can't get with the sound of the Uber cabs at all. They have a mid-honk that just kills it for me. They seem like they'd be great for rock but I don't think they're nearly as versatile as the NeoX212 cabs.

impactwrench · #11 01-07-2012, 05:28 PM

the neox212t would be better for stacking? since the drivers are vertical? but its only available in 4 ohms. a while back I wanted to get 2 2x12 cabs for vertical stacking, but ended up with a TB153.

dog1 · #12 01-07-2012, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by impactwrench

the neox212t would be better for stacking? since the drivers are vertical? but its only available in 4 ohms. a while back I wanted to get 2 2x12 cabs for vertical stacking, but ended up with a TB153.

Shoot. Use them side by side. Also. I would NEVER buy an amp that is not stable at 2 ohms. That's just me. Try GB amps.

will33 · #13 01-07-2012, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by impactwrench

the neox212t would be better for stacking? since the drivers are vertical? but its only available in 4 ohms. a while back I wanted to get 2 2x12 cabs for vertical stacking, but ended up with a TB153.

Yes, vertical is where it's at for stacking/dispersion. The NeoX is one of the only 212's out there that's put together right.

lo-freq · #14 01-07-2012, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by steve_rolfeca

The Uber is less scooped, in other words.

Just checking here, guys: would any of you that have gigged with the Neox-212T describe them as scooped-sounding?

I've read probably most of the posts on talkbass referring to the Neox-212T and don't remember anyone calling them scooped-sounding.

To the OP's point, I'd recommend the ShuttleMax 9.2 (one of the most versatile heads on the planet) and a pair of Neox-112T (vertically stacked) -- better low end, low mids, and with the SMax 9.2, still tight overall.

kissmybASS01 · #15 01-07-2012, 08:28 PM

I am a proud owner of a Neox-212T, and I've used it with a variety of heads and basses (amps: Marshall MB hybrid head, VB-2 all tube, and Markbass LMK; basses: Jazz and P basses, and an EUB). This cab produced exactly the sound I was looking for. The lows are fat and thick and the top end has just enough of that sparkle, and the mids seemed like the glue that held it all together.

Cheesy, I know. However, this cab is the perfect one for me. If I had the cash, I'd pick up another one (or its smaller 210T sibling) in a heartbeat.

Eublet · #16 01-09-2012, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by lo-freq

Just checking here, guys: would any of you that have gigged with the Neox-212T describe them as scooped-sounding?
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No, it's not scooped at all. It has a bit of upper-mid emphasis actually. I think what most people hear isn't a scoop in the mids, but rather a bit of a dip where the paper cones leave off and the crossover into the tweeter begins. Generally speaking, 12" drivers don't really carry that "low-treble" in the cones as well as 10" drivers, but that's what makes many folks love the sound of 2x12 cabinets. They tend to feel a little bit more pillowy and round down bottom, instead of so punchy and aggressive.

The Neox 212 is still one of my favorite cabinets. I used one for several years and it never let me down. It's capable of plenty of volume and is never muddy or boomy. Plenty of bass, and it'll take a lot of EQ if you want to add more. Powered by 500-1000 watt head, it will absolutely slam.

pengyou40 · #17 01-13-2012, 05:41 PM

How did you like the neox-212t with the vb-2 ? I have the vb-2, but my cab is a Carvin 115 and the low end just sounds pillowy and boomy...not what I want at all.

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Originally Posted by kissmybASS01

I am a proud owner of a Neox-212T, and I've used it with a variety of heads and basses (amps: Marshall MB hybrid head, VB-2 all tube, and Markbass LMK; basses: Jazz and P basses, and an EUB). This cab produced exactly the sound I was looking for. The lows are fat and thick and the top end has just enough of that sparkle, and the mids seemed like the glue that held it all together.

Cheesy, I know. However, this cab is the perfect one for me. If I had the cash, I'd pick up another one (or its smaller 210T sibling) in a heartbeat.