Genz Benz 900 watts

[Mastermold]

Originally Posted by rodl2005

In your situation, I'd go with the Shuttle over the STL. Hugely versatile & sculptable, superb amp.Especially for upright.

Or get both like I did.

[Lukejt]

Loving my Shuttle 9.2. Could have had the Max for the same price, but didn't want all the knobs. The tone is right up my alley, and the features are great, headphones, aux etc. Small, tight and loud with a good variety of different tones available without a lot of adjustment. It's running my Fearful 15/6 and I love it. FYI I prefer it over the Carvin BX1500 (it's got more power and too many knobs, sounds thin in comparison).

[svtb15]

I have been back on the Streamliner kick. .But the ShuttleMax is one Desert Island amp.. A total keeper.. And if i know im on a gig where there may some sound issues it is teh only one that I know will be helpful in fixing a bad stage sound... Its tight sounding .. SS in a very good way... Best DI i have encountered in an amps DI out.. Loud as i need .. and i play LOUD at times. When i need to , i bring my old SVT 810 and put the SM9.2 into it.. More speakers do alot.. It hits you in the chest with better headroom than an SVT... The 900 watts in the SL 900 or SM9.2 make sit a great amp

[agedhorse]

Originally Posted by svtb15

I have been back on the Streamliner kick. .But the ShuttleMax is one Desert Island amp.. A total keeper.. And if i know im on a gig where there may some sound issues it is teh only one that I know will be helpful in fixing a bad stage sound... Its tight sounding .. SS in a very good way... Best DI i have encountered in an amps DI out.. Loud as i need .. and i play LOUD at times. When i need to , i bring my old SVT 810 and put the SM9.2 into it.. More speakers do alot.. It hits you in the chest with better headroom than an SVT... The 900 watts in the SL 900 or SM9.2 make sit a great amp

Hey Kurt - missed seeing you at NAMM man, missed Marulio by a day as well.

The ShuttleMax is indeed the most flexible amp, it has enough eq to get the job done under tough conditions as well as 2 channels to accomodate switching around between styles and approaches on the fly. It's kind of a cross between a bass amp and a pro audio product, and that's one reason why it's been more successful with the higher level touring guys who are faced with different and often unpredictable conditions day after day (kind of like you... ). This flexibility does come at the cost of "simplicity", but a player who has the need also will have the experience to deal with it and can always ask the FOH or monitor engineer for some help if necessary. The engineers will take one look at the pro audio type architecture and be right at home.

[svtb15]

Yes Andy I missed you too.. man.. I was busy and out of town.....
The SM9.2 is mindful of pro audio gear.
I tell people it is not as complicated as it looks.. I have them draw an imaginary line across the face Then they only see one set of knobs.. Most people only need that anyway.. the TUBE of FET.. Pick one and get what you like, then later once you know what that does, experiment with the o0tehr channel or try Mixing the two ..
I have experiments at times trying that only Compression trick they used in NYC years ago.. Side chaining Compression... By putting a COMP on one channel and compressing teh snot out of it them bringing in the other uncompressed channel to allow teh punch to come through... Really neat effect. and can only be done with the two channel EFFECT Loop as in the SM9.2 These days i just use the FET channel and its is very predictable.. and thats a good thing,,,

[Blues Cat]

Speaking of 900 watts, I was looking through the GB site to see what would be a one amp solution for two 4 ohm NX2-212's. Looks like the Shuttlemax 12.2 is my only option.

I'd really like 900 watts x2 @ 4 ohms for the clean headroom. Is there such an animal in the GB lineup that I'm missing?

My other option would be another SL900, running two SL900's into each individual NX2-212.

[agedhorse]

Either the Max 12.0 or two of the STM-900's using the effects loop linking feature to link the inputs of the power amps for this particular application.

[agedhorse]

Originally Posted by svtb15

Yes Andy I missed you too.. man.. I was busy and out of town.....
The SM9.2 is mindful of pro audio gear.
I tell people it is not as complicated as it looks.. I have them draw an imaginary line across the face Then they only see one set of knobs.. Most people only need that anyway.. the TUBE of FET.. Pick one and get what you like, then later once you know what that does, experiment with the o0tehr channel or try Mixing the two ..
I have experiments at times trying that only Compression trick they used in NYC years ago.. Side chaining Compression... By putting a COMP on one channel and compressing teh snot out of it them bringing in the other uncompressed channel to allow teh punch to come through... Really neat effect. and can only be done with the two channel EFFECT Loop as in the SM9.2 These days i just use the FET channel and its is very predictable.. and thats a good thing,,,

The side chain controlled compressor is an option with the signal routing on the Max, again more of a full pro type of application.

Glad you are staying busy, good to hear man.

[Bassbass1]

Thanks again guys, appreciate your time

It's awesome reading all your opinions and advice

I Live in Melbourne,Australia and in comparison there are only a few bassists using GB amps

Is the tone from ShuttleMax 9.2 FET channel similar to what the shuttle 9.2 tone

Or ist it completely different in tone character

cheers BB1

[KJung]

Originally Posted by Bassbass1

Thanks again guys, appreciate your time

It's awesome reading all your opinions and advice

I Live in Melbourne,Australia and in comparison there are only a few bassists using GB amps

Is the tone from ShuttleMax 9.2 FET channel similar to what the shuttle 9.2 tone

Or ist it completely different in tone character

cheers BB1

The TUBE channel of the Max 9.2 is quite similar to the Shuttle, and you get more EQ. The FET channel has the capability to get quite a bit more punchy and mid present to my year. Both channels don't sound massively different when set flat, but you can EQ them to sound very different.

The big difference when using the tube channel with the Ma heads versus the Shuttle is that you get the extra band of semi-parametric midrange, and you get the much more usable variable voicing filters (i.e., you can dial in just a little bit or a lot) versus the 'all or nothing' on/off voicing buttons of the Shuttle 9.2/6.2.

All good stuff though, and you pay for the extra capability of the Max with a larger box.

[Blues Cat]

Originally Posted by agedhorse

Either the Max 12.0 or two of the STM-900's using the effects loop linking feature to link the inputs of the power amps for this particular application.

Ok cool. So pre-out on the master amp to the slave amp's power amp in?

If I'm reading the manual correctly, after doing the aforementioned, the slave's pre out can then be used as another DI signal to another amp or FOH completely independent of the master's EQ?

It looks like the Aux input shouldn't be used for daisy chaining, or could it?

I'm leaning towards a Max 9.2 now as a 2nd amp.

[agedhorse]

The slave amp functions only as a power amp, you will not have DI capabilities. You would use the DI on the primary amp. You could use the aux in as well, both feed the master volume section.

[svtb15]

I will be using my Max 9.2 at the Dallas Guitar show. If you are there i can demo it for you.. Im not sure of the date yet. Just got the email last night that i will be there, and i skimmed it since i just came to after a deep coma last night. im whooped....
The Max 9.2 is the most versatile amp that i have ... the FET is tight yet fat.. and if you open up the Global bass button, it extends down as far as anyone would care to. Sometimes i use the Tube channel but mostly the FET...
At times i have used it as a pre amp into a Fender TB1200 as a power amp in order to do a 2 ohm load... and for that i ran MASTER Send out to the input or teh power amp section on the fender amp.. that pre into that poweramp section and 2 810s is a massive air mover with tons of clarity

Originally Posted by Blues Cat

Ok cool. So pre-out on the master amp to the slave amp's power amp in?

If I'm reading the manual correctly, after doing the aforementioned, the slave's pre out can then be used as another DI signal to another amp or FOH completely independent of the master's EQ?

It looks like the Aux input shouldn't be used for daisy chaining, or could it?

I'm leaning towards a Max 9.2 now as a 2nd amp.

[Blues Cat]

Originally Posted by agedhorse

The slave amp functions only as a power amp, you will not have DI capabilities. You would use the DI on the primary amp. You could use the aux in as well, both feed the master volume section.

Ok so the slaves' pre & DI becomes disabled when you power amp in?

[Big Brother]

Originally Posted by Sav'nBass

Yes but depending on how old that is and if the seller has the receipt for the warranty it might still be a pretty good deal .. and he might be able to negotiate down a few Jacksons... $100 is $100

FWIW I bought my 9.2 used and the board died cold on it a month later, first note of a gig. Of course I had no receipt but GB didn't ask for it and didn't seem to care. They mailed a fitted carton to ship it to them in and had the amp back to me in a week with new components, all free of charge.

I can't say if they are still this way though, above-and-beyond warranty policies like these generally get an accountants axe and revert to the parent companies policies at some point.

[rodl2005]

Ahhhhh! The good ol' days!

[Wally Malone]

Received my new SM 9.2 last night and looking forward to diving into today. The warranty is three-year and transferable.

Wally

[ErnieD]

Originally Posted by rodl2005

Ahhhhh! The good ol' days!

GB helped me with two different cabs repairs free of charge past couple of years and countless helpful PM's here many times. Special thanks to Roger (hasbeen) for much of that.

...good days indeed.