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05-15-2010, 12:51 PM
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So when are we getting it? 
After falling in love with the voicing and power of the Shuttle 9.0, I picked up playing Upright Bass.
It would be soooo convienent if I had a Shuttle Max feature set with the power and warm voicing of the Shuttle 9.0.
Then I could set one channel for EB and one for UB.
Or should I just try to get another Shuttle Max 12.0? The 500 watts into 8 ohms is such a sweet deal as well as the warmness of the 9.0 amp.
So I ask the question. When?
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05-15-2010, 01:16 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Texas | | | Put me in for a Max 9.0 too! I really like my Shuttle Max 12.0 but I'm just finishing a fEarful-inspired 15/6/1 cab and would sign on for a Max 9.0 because of the extra headroom into an 8 ohm load. | 
05-15-2010, 01:58 PM
| | Registered User Endorsing Artist :Alleva-Coppolo Basses |Genz-Benz |REDDI|Westone IEM | | Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin,TX- New York,NY | | | mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm yummy
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05-15-2010, 02:22 PM
|  | passionate hack | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Malone, NY/ Montreal, Quebec | | | 2 Shuttle 9s can be had on eBay for around the same price as as a S-Max 12 with best offer if you buy them in the same transaction. Voila: modular S-Max 9 with the only drawback of not having the adjustable push-button voicings.
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05-15-2010, 02:26 PM
| | Development Engineer: Genz Benz | | | | | This is something you guys will have to nag Roger about. He's the one who balances everything we do regarding product and I know he takes this stuf very seriously.
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05-15-2010, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by agedhorse This is something you guys will have to nag Roger about. He's the one who balances everything we do regarding product and I know he takes this stuff very seriously. | I'm sure you could get requests for 19 different versions of Shuttles but I think this one would make sense. Having the voicing and power options of the 9.0 with a Max front end. The Output of the 9.0 just really works well for so many things.
Funny thing is I had a Shuttle Max 12.0 and got rid of it thinking I just didn't need all those options but the game has changed for me sense adding Upright Bass to the equation. Having one channel set up for Bass one then another set up for Bass two without having to reEQ every swap all in one little package would be so peachy.  | 
05-16-2010, 12:05 AM
|  | Less Ebay, more Mel Bay | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Phoenix, AZ | | | I'd buy one.
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05-16-2010, 12:51 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Fort Worth -- that's my hood. | | | I much prefer the S.Max preamp, but I know a lot of players prefer a more simple control layout.
I also understand these are difficult times economically.
Market volatility makes for some tough decisions.
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05-16-2010, 03:00 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Germany, EU | | Quote:
Originally Posted by agedhorse This is something you guys will have to nag Roger about. He's the one who balances everything we do regarding product and I know he takes this stuf very seriously. | Roger, consider yourself nagged !
if it would come with the 9.0 design rather than the silver .... 
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05-16-2010, 07:37 AM
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05-16-2010, 07:41 AM
|  | Supporting Member | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ukiah, California | | I'd buy one too. Then I could get rid of this combination. Sometimes the FET only is the best option (e.g. acoustic bass). Sometimes you want to add tube. The EQ options are invaluable. So are the extra preamp boost buttons. I'm also using fearful-like cabs so the extra power is essential.  | 
05-16-2010, 07:50 AM
| | Registered User Endorsing Artist :Alleva-Coppolo Basses |Genz-Benz |REDDI|Westone IEM | | Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin,TX- New York,NY | | A Max 9 or 18 would be the end of the road for me...
Or a Shuttle 10 with 1000 watts and a front end of a GBE...
I used my Shuttle max12 through my Neox cabs on a loud gig last night.. whoa! killer rig!! It would kill small animals from 50 yards away... The Neox destroy my Aguilar 112s which have been a favorite for a while .. just used to them i suppose.
I wanted to ad the I did a quik AB with my Bergantino HT112ER and my Neox 112..
If you want a nice aggressive and LOUD 112 can the NEOX 112 stepped all over the Bergantino.. The Berg is very smooth and polite sounding.. with a nice transition between 12 and tweet...Great cab! But my Neox 112 still smooth, and aggressive, punchy... and more in your face while keeping a great bottom. and it was noticeably louder with same amp settings / bass and playing style than the Berg cab... I used my NYC Sadowsky PJ5 ..
I must sell that Berg and my Aggys and get a pair of uber 210s .. thats it.
Also saw my TB friend FishTx on Friday night with his GB Neox212 cab at a local 200 seat club. That cab may be one of the sleepers of all time.. It filled the room and was able to be heard down the street. and in a good way.. it was cutting over two loud guitar players, loud vocals and Hammond player...
Yeah im an endorser , but i go out and listen to bands too when i am able.... 
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05-16-2010, 08:09 AM
| | Registered User Endorsing Artist :Alleva-Coppolo Basses |Genz-Benz |REDDI|Westone IEM | | Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin,TX- New York,NY | | I have always liked the way that your rig looks.. clean and mean.... yet hi tech too...
Any reason you did not put the power amp on the bottom? just wondering. Quote:
Originally Posted by Ukiah Bass I'd buy one too. Then I could get rid of this combination. Sometimes the FET only is the best option (e.g. acoustic bass). Sometimes you want to add tube. The EQ options are invaluable. So are the extra preamp boost buttons. I'm also using fearful-like cabs so the extra power is essential.  |
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05-16-2010, 08:35 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Kansas City | | I know that I'm a total GAS-head, and yet my GBE 1200 has been my on-stage go-to for 4 years and will be for the foreseeable future. I tried a Shuttle 6.0 and it didn't quite cut it for me - partly the power, partly the voicing. I really dug the MAX 12 that I tried, but was a bit nervous about another 600W power section. Haven't tried a Shuttle 9.0 yet (KC is a bit of a black hole for gear), but I've been thinking about a MAX 9.0 for a long time now  I would definitely give one of those a spin.
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05-16-2010, 09:06 AM
|  | Supporting Member | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ukiah, California | | Quote:
Originally Posted by svtb15 I have always liked the way that your rig looks.. clean and mean.... yet hi tech too...
Any reason you did not put the power amp on the bottom? just wondering. |
The amp is on top for a non-tech reason: The SM12 won't fit on top w/its rubber feet, and I chose to not remove them. Was easier to stick the SM12 on bottom and amp on top.
FWIW, the rig sounds the same in either position. | 
05-16-2010, 09:10 AM
| | Registered User Endorsing Artist :Alleva-Coppolo Basses |Genz-Benz |REDDI|Westone IEM | | Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin,TX- New York,NY | | good answer...about the feet....
Man but i really thought you would get Muuuuch nicer dynamic range in the high mids if the QSC was on bottom..  Just what i read on TB   Quote:
Originally Posted by Ukiah Bass The amp is on top for a non-tech reason: The SM12 won't fit on top w/its rubber feet, and I chose to not remove them. Was easier to stick the SM12 on bottom and amp on top.
FWIW, the rig sounds the same in either position. |
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05-16-2010, 09:55 AM
| | | It just makes sense having a Shuttle Max 9.0. I really like the 500 watts into 8 ohms and 900 into 4 ohms. None of these other little pip squeak amp makers can come anywhere close to what Genz Benz has done with the Shuttles.
The Shuttle Max 12.0 tonally surpasses any of the other Micros. It has this 3D clarity and depth that is unequaled with F-22 Rap-tor like controls. The simplicity of the Shuttle 9.0 and power set with that warm fatness is just crazy. Taking those two and jamming them together would be a nice addition to the line for you guys to offer.
I can See where the Max 12.0 might be just what the doctor ordered for some, the 9.0 would be right up some folks alley, and the Max 9.0 would offer a slightly differing feature set. It's a win win situation. Doesn't really cut existing product just offers more of what we love. I do not think this would leave the Max 6.0 out in the cold. Some folks don't need the kind of power the 9.0 delivers. Some would prefer that the tone of the current Max amps.
I realize there is cost involved in doing this as well as some sweat equity so I know I'm asking a lot. I'm sure this would pay off for you guys. I hope you have recouped cost of the new Shuttle amps and are making a profit. Pretty please with sugar on top? | 
05-16-2010, 10:36 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Fort Worth -- that's my hood. | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Ukiah Bass The amp is on top for a non-tech reason: The SM12 won't fit on top w/its rubber feet, and I chose to not remove them. Was easier to stick the SM12 on bottom and amp on top.
FWIW, the rig sounds the same in either position. | I thought the arrangement was because the power amp will produce more heat than the SMax12 and hot air rises.
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05-16-2010, 10:49 AM
| | Registered User Endorsing Artist :Alleva-Coppolo Basses |Genz-Benz |REDDI|Westone IEM | | Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin,TX- New York,NY | | Great post... Maybe a limited edition model too with a different color faceplate... Red in honor of you starting this thread..
Max 9 is a good idea..... Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Planet It just makes sense having a Shuttle Max 9.0. I really like the 500 watts into 8 ohms and 900 into 4 ohms. None of these other little pip squeak amp makers can come anywhere close to what Genz Benz has done with the Shuttles.
The Shuttle Max 12.0 tonally surpasses any of the other Micros. It has this 3D clarity and depth that is unequaled with F-22 Rap-tor like controls. The simplicity of the Shuttle 9.0 and power set with that warm fatness is just crazy. Taking those two and jamming them together would be a nice addition to the line for you guys to offer.
I can See where the Max 12.0 might be just what the doctor ordered for some, the 9.0 would be right up some folks alley, and the Max 9.0 would offer a slightly differing feature set. It's a win win situation. Doesn't really cut existing product just offers more of what we love. I do not think this would leave the Max 6.0 out in the cold. Some folks don't need the kind of power the 9.0 delivers. Some would prefer that the tone of the current Max amps.
I realize there is cost involved in doing this as well as some sweat equity so I know I'm asking a lot. I'm sure this would pay off for you guys. I hope you have recouped cost of the new Shuttle amps and are making a profit. Pretty please with sugar on top? |
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05-16-2010, 10:49 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Brooklyn and Hudson Valley | | | As another electric/upright doubler, I agree that would be nice. As it is, I play the electric through a 6.0 or a LM II into whatever Genz Benz cab best fits the venue; and I play the upright into a 3.0 - 8 shuttle using the DI to the PA. Not a bad arrangement as the 3.0 - 8 takes up so little room and functions as a monitor as well.
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