Genz Benz Streamliner Part 9

[agedhorse]

The 600 and 900 use identical preamps, the main difference is the power.

For a single 12, the 600 would be a better choice. The 900 had enough power to damage almost any 12" cabinet on the market unless you are very careful.

[jerry]

Originally Posted by agedhorse

The 600 and 900 use identical preamps, the main difference is the power.

For a single 12, the 600 would be a better choice. The 900 had enough power to damage almost any 12" cabinet on the market unless you are very careful.

I understand what your saying, but I've been using the 900 paired with an Epifani UL112 on hundreds of duo gigs for a few years now. They sound great together, I just change to a bigger cab for band gigs and use the same head.

[woolysock]

^^^
Me too. STL 900 into Berg HT112. No problem. Sounds great.

[steve_rolfeca]

Originally Posted by jerry

I understand what your saying, but I've been using the 900 paired with an Epifani UL112 on hundreds of duo gigs for a few years now. They sound great together, I just change to a bigger cab for band gigs and use the same head.

Likewise. I gigged my SL900 and a little 250-watt three-way single 10 cab for a while with no problems. I continue to use it (and a G-K MB800) with a single 150 watt Beta 10a for coffee house gigs.

But agedhorse is right to put his disclaimer out there- if you don't know what you're doing, it's easy to fry drivers with a powerful amp.

Based on what manufacturers experience in the warranty department, and what I've seen over the years as a repair tech, there are a LOT of musicians who don't know what they're doing.

[Marty Forrer]

I've just pulled the trigger on a Streamliner 600 and a Shuttle 1x12 to go with the Shuttle 1x12 I've already got. Lightweight and versatile..... that'll do me.

[Texan]

Originally Posted by agedhorse

The 600 and 900 use identical preamps, the main difference is the power.

For a single 12, the 600 would be a better choice. The 900 had enough power to damage almost any 12" cabinet on the market unless you are very careful.

So, for the less informed, the obvious question is: Define careful, how do you suggest the 900 be run with a single 12 and a pair of 12's?

[GRAHAM SG1]

I would be most upset if my 900 fried my Barefaced super twelve

[Bmorefoozler]

Originally Posted by Texan

So, for the less informed, the obvious question is: Define careful, how do you suggest the 900 be run with a single 12 and a pair of 12's?

if you turn the volume up to a point where you hear a farting noise from your cab, turn it down. If you are playing witha higher volume settign then you have used before with that cab, listen carefully for farting noises.

[main_sale]

I own a Shuttle 6.0 but since the Streamliner came out I've had GAS. I got the Streamliner 900 just the other day and it sounds like heaven through my G-B NeoX 212T. It was the right move for me! I've got a pair of Bag End S-15D's to try it with next.

[iammr2]

Originally Posted by main_sale

I own a Shuttle 6.0 but since the Streamliner came out I've had GAS. I got the Streamliner 900 just the other day and it sounds like heaven through my G-B NeoX 212T. It was the right move for me! I've got a pair of Bag End S-15D's to try it with next.

Please let us know how that turns out with the BE's. Anxious to hear about it.

[agedhorse]

Originally Posted by Bmorefoozler

if you turn the volume up to a point where you hear a farting noise from your cab, turn it down. If you are playing witha higher volume settign then you have used before with that cab, listen carefully for farting noises.

Common thoughts but some cabinets and amps are designed to overload gracefully and may cause damage before a player might hear something bad, especially in a band situation.

IME, you do not want to be hitting the output peak led into a single 10 or 12 at 8 ohms. The 900 delivers about 600 watts at 8 ohms which at low frequencies will exceed the mechanical power handling. Keeping the output below the peak led is a good start.

[Nino D]

Sometimes the peak light blinks on when playing my 900 with the ubber 212. Could it damage the speakers ?

[agedhorse]

Originally Posted by Nino D

Sometimes the peak light blinks on when playing my 900 with the ubber 212. Could it damage the speakers ?

Anything is possible but it's unlikely. Here's why...

The rated power is 900 watts RMS at 4 ohms, that's ~450 watts per driver or about 1.5x the continuous rating. Using the Streamliner 900 with a single 8 ohm driver would be ~600 watts RMS into 8 ohms or ~2x the continuous rating of the driver. With single driver 12" cabinets, there is generally a compromise in low end over a 2 x 12" cabinet so the common impulse is to turn the LF eq up putting more mechanical stress on the single driver being driven harder than it's 2 driver cabinet counterpoint.

[wfmandmusic]

I've read through these threads and like what I saw. I almost fell down my basement steps carrying my 69 SVT the other day. Kind of funny but I'm just not a burly young man any more. I should have my amp on Tuesday. I have an array of cabs to try it out on. First will be an ampeg sealed 410 4 ohms. I have two of these but generally only use one at practice. A boogie 215 ported and a boogie 210 with a tweeter in it ported. When I'm feeling burly again, I can try it with my old ampeg sealed square back 810. I currently play in two different Led Zeppelin tribute bands. One out of NYC travels a lot. I hope I can use it on the road in some big rooms. I may be searching for some cabs soon.

[steve_rolfeca]

Much as I love my Streamliner, it's not getting any play since I got my G-K MB800.

A session with a raft of cabs and amps at a GTTG on Saturday convinced me that regardless of where I go with cabs in the future, I would probably be better off with something a little more modern-sounding.

Thinking ShuttleMax 12.0 or 12.2, so if anyone would like to do a trade, see my posting in the classified section.

[Thor]

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