Genz Benz Uber Bass 600W 2x12 vs Left-facing Genz Benz NEOX-212T 600W 2x12

[MyMusic]

Aside from price, what is the difference between the Genz Benz Uber Bass 600W 2x12 and the Genz Benz NEOX-212T 600W 2x12 cabs?

[jlepre]

Weight?

[LightGroove]

Yep...minor asthetics....neox has casters etc and the weight... Neo speakers vs. standard magnets...the neox pairs nicely with the shuttle 6.0 fwiw

[MikeBass]

Originally Posted by LightGroove

Yep...minor asthetics....neox has casters etc and the weight... Neo speakers vs. standard magnets...the neox pairs nicely with the shuttle 6.0 fwiw

Umm....not exactly
Both have neo speakers- the Uber weighs a bit more though.
I believe the Uber also has casters, but the standard removable type. The ones on the Neox212 are pretty cool as they're built into the bottom back edge of the cab. Just tilt it back and walk away with it.

I've owned the NeoX212.
It's under-rated spec wise me thinks. It's a CRAZY loud cab that IMO is better suited for louder bands. It really punches through a mix like no other 212 I've heard.

The Uber is more like a 410 in it's "big-ness". But not in a bad way at all. Where the Neox212 is the same, but punchy-er.
I only spent a little time with one (Uber 212) and not on a gig, so I would be mis-leading if I said I would prefer one over the other.

TB'r JoeyKun I believe has/had both at one time. Shoot him a PM.

Another great sounding 212 (even though you didn't ask! LOL!!) is the GK neo 212.
Oh man, that thing is something to behold.
And the shocker cab.........





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The now discontinued Hartke Pro2200 212.
Wow, sometimes the planets line up and things really work sometimes. And it did in that box.

[svtb15]

Both cabs have NEO speakers. I dont know if they use the exact same driver.
The NEOX212 is very nice very light and very LOUD... the Uber is a different profile and (from what i have heard since i have not played the Uber212) that it has more force? and sounds deeper..., ...

[Joeykun]

The Uber 212 has the same built in casters and slide rails.
Everyone is correct describing the Uber 212. It is big and round and the notes come out with definition.
You can add a little sparkle with the tweeter volume control. Great cab!!

I dont care for it as a stand alone cab for my tone goals though. But, combined with the Uber 410 it is amazing!!!
Those 2 cabs compliment eachother wonderfully.

I do not have any experience with the NeoX. But, from what I heard the cab is designed differently were you get
more projection out of it with the vertical 12"s and the dual edge porting.

Honestly, I dont think you can go wrong with either one. But, I think the NeoX212 is more popular out of the two.

[agedhorse]

Tuning, cubic volume and porting differences, bracing and cosmetics.

[MyMusic]

Thanks for the info guys. There's so much gear out there it quickly gets confusing to sort all this out.

[ErnieD]

I own two of the NeoX 212T cabs, mostly use just one when I get PA support, rare. Been using my UL410-II cab bridged @ 1050 watts with pre/pwer amp rig.

I had a company Holiday (Christmas) party gig this past Friday. Music was soul/r&b/classic rock. I got there to find they had us in their machine shop, I was setup right next to a lathe, . I brought my two, NeoX cabs, just cause I've not not used them in awhile and just heard we'd be in a very big room; can you say "work-area-machine-shop" about 100 dudes; 3 gals. Sausage-fest. Drunk machinists everywhere.

So I setup my two cabs, stack one on the other, 4x12's vert, Nice. I brought my NeoPak ( 2 ohm modded ) head, for convenience, instead of placing my 4 space pre/pwer amp way up there. And could not use either of my Markbass heads cause of 2 ohms, my Neopak always kills with these two cabs. I used my passive JoBo 5 w/DR Orange Neons, colorful for the holiday season.

Well, I sure miss what I heard from my NeoX cabs this nite. First off, tall rig directly behind me, punching like crazy, nice tight tone that I don't get from the UL410. And the little Neopak just powered them up nicely, no PA for me this nite.

Don't mean to de-rail with my story here, just showing some love for the lightweight, easy to move, punchy mids NeoX 212T cabs. They've sat unused for a few months since I got my UL410 but I'll use them again now. I only played thru the Uber 212/410 cabs at a local store recently. Nice cabs, I almost took the Uber 410 but bought a used UL410 instead.

I did not want another 212 cab but the Uber was big sounding in the store. I did a search back then to get opinions on the Uber cabs, never heard a bad thing about them. Uber/NeoX, pick one...or two.

[agedhorse]

Originally Posted by ErnieD

I was setup right next to a lathe, .

Hey Ernie, That's the best spot in the shop... though I prefer the tool room myself

[Medford Bassman]

I've owned the NEOX 212 for about 3 years now. From day one I have been impressed with the punch of this cabinet. I originally paired it with the GBE 750 then moved to a shuttle 6.0. Loud, and articulate cabinet. Also, amazingly light. I've gigged with it pretty heavily. I purchased a nice cover for it just to keep it fairly clean.

I do prefer it over a 4-10 cabinet. Unfortunately, in the past year, we have upgraded our PA system to the point where my bass amp onstage is now a bass monitor for me. So, I never get to run the shuttle master volume over "2". Luckily, I was able to purchase the NEOX 112 cabinet! Which is just as nice as the 212. except even lighter.

[RickenBoogie]

Just my ears, but I didn't care for the NeoX 212. Too snappy and modern for me. The Uber, otoh, has a great balance between snappy and fat. My favorite "modern" cab, thus far. Quite loud, too, for 2 12's.

[Standalone]

The Neox212 is not just loud and punchy. It has a big bottom end, too, IME. Have not played an uber to compare.

[ErnieD]

While I only played a little thru the Uber 212/410 cabs at a store, I can see where they did seem to offer a bigger bottom than the NeoX 212T, generally.

Now I did a large outdoor biker gig this past summer. I layed two NeoX 212T cabs on their sides and placed my Carvin B1500 on top using Am St P5 w/flats. This rig was pretty awesome sounding, no PA support, on its own and I had to back off the bass knob some to keep from rumbling too hard. The Harley's were doing that already.

I'd never used these two cabs with this amp before so I too have felt the NeoX cabs were way more mid-voiced that I only used them with my soul/funk band w/55-02 for that funk tone I needed. Works great for that. This day I used the above rig first time with my blues band and impressed the band with the low end I was getting from these two cabs they'd never seen before.

So IMO, they can get pretty big bottom. Maybe requires the right amp to do it with. I've read here where these NeoX cabs like to be pushed abit to get there; well I was pushing em.

I'd have to use a Uber 212 (or two) live to really know what it can do in comparison but that prolly won't happen anytime soon. I've read here where a few like the Uber cabs like no other, so they got that going for them. Its all good stuff to me....GB-wise.

[coastie72]

You can't go wrong with either the Uber or Neox, Genz don't make bad gear. I can't think of anything out there I would trade for my current 112T and 212T driven by a ShuttleMax 12.0. I rarely use them together, the 212T gets 90% of my use.

[ErnieD]

I bought both my NeoX 212T cabs new. But for when I did not want to use two large cabs, I bought a 112T used here on TB. I stack that 112T on a single 212T and I have a nice 3x12, vert shorter stack. Again, with the modded NeoPak works real nice.

Gets the 112 up by closer to my ears, an easier haul and just serves my purpose well. I've used that 112T alone w/F1 and 5 string basses for house parties, rehearsal, etc. Its a great little 112 cab.

[MikeBass]

Originally Posted by coastie72

You can't go wrong with either the Uber or Neox, Genz don't make bad gear. I can't think of anything out there I would trade for my current 112T and 212T driven by a ShuttleMax 12.0. I rarely use them together, the 212T gets 90% of my use.

That 212/112 S'Max rig must KILL...........

[ErnieD]

Originally Posted by MikeBass

That 212/112 S'Max rig must KILL...........

My NeoPak powered 3x12's may not KILL but it'll leave a really ugly mark and some slight bruising.....