Gk 1001rb II in to Ampeg 410hlf?
The ampeg is rated at 500watts at 4ohms. GK is rated at 700. Question is, is this too much to run through the ampeg?
I have owned a GK 1001rb before and had an issue with it blowing speakers (avatar 8ohm 410, ampeg pr410hlf.... Different occasions, never ran together). I assume this was an issue with the head as these cabinets should have been able to easily handle 700 watts. I didn't want to risk further issues so got rid of the head.
Anywho I recently picked up an ampeg 410hlf (older St. Louis one) and a mark bass LM III. I like the mark bass, but can't get that gk growl out of it. Considering going back to the GK as i can pick up a used 1001 for $350 if i act quickly... but don't want to over power the cab.
If you overpower the cab, it's your fault, as they all do have a volume knob ;)
The thing you have to do this time, however, is ignore the cab hype and use your ears...I have never played a 410 in my life that could do much better than 400-500w real world power handling. Ampeg rates the SVT 410hlf as being able to handle 500w. That's about it, and then you start getting the speakers to fart out and possibly blow. A lot of companies use the wattage that causes the speakers to blow as their power handling rating, and many people such as yourself don't realize that it's a very top figure that will cause blowing the second it's exceeded. Ampeg's one of the few that doesn't, as their Classic cabs are rated pretty honestly for real world usage, and 500w is about tops before fartout sets in.
Another thing many cab-blowers don't realize is that beyond an amp's RMS wattage rating, all tube amps and traditionally built SS amps have at least TWICE the wattage available to them for peaks. So if the 1001-RB is rated at 700w RMS, it's capable of delivering 1400w peak power once you crank it past its clean volume.
Now how do you keep from blowing speakers in a situation like that? Simple. You forget about the numbers, and you use your ears and your common sense. If you turn up an amp to the point where it sounds like the cab might explode, it most definitely will explode, and the numbers mean diddly-squat. You learned that lesson the hard way.
It's very possible to use a 1001-RB with a 410hlf, but you have to have discipline. But if cranking the amp so hard that it distorts is part of your plans, then you need to get a smaller amp or rethink how you will get distortion, as the 410hlf will not take a 1001-RB cranked that hard.
all tube amps and traditionally built SS amps have at least TWICE the wattage available to them for peaks
That's the part that confuses me with the previous 1001. I never pushed volume or gain past 12 o clock. The speakers never sounded bad... Just had the traditional gk tone I was used to from a previously owned 700rb. Both cabs were rated over 1000 watts and both blew one speaker in a band practice setting.
Knob position means nothing.
Based upon EQ, hotness of input signal, and other gain staging, your amp could be at full power at "noon"
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