GK 2x NEO 212 vs GK NEO 412

mouthmw · #1 08-30-2011, 05:58 AM

Which route would you prefer?
Which has better tone?

Obviously 2 212 are easier to transport, but do they lose any authority that a single 412 cab would have?

jelwood · #2 08-30-2011, 06:10 AM

Actually if I am not mistaken, in the 412 a little bit of sound/tone is compromised as compared to 2 212's. 2 212's will however run you a few Ben's more. The user B-String around here has the 412 and he says that it blows the blouses off women at twenty paces and he has to carry around a hammer to pound nails back into the unlucky wooden stages

bassvi · #3 08-30-2011, 11:15 AM

That's a good question I have wondered about. I have always been fascinated with 4x12 bass cabs, but went with the 2 -2x12 set up for portability. If they could get a great sounding 4x12 down to the 60-70 lb. point I'd have one.

Tunaman · #4 08-30-2011, 11:35 AM

Actually a 212 212 stack will be LESS than a 412.
Amazon has GK NEO 212s for $430 today

I have a GK Neo 412 its awesome, its a bear to move so it stays home. I have mine up for sale as I'm getting a GK NEO 115 115 III stack. As for the tone its the balls, handles the 5 string with ease, really its plain ridiculous. Get one used & save a bundle if thats an issue.

If I were starting from scratch I'd do 115 115 or 112 112 vs 212 212. Ask Scott on the GK owners appreciation thread. Thats a hell of a lot of cab. Most amps won't be able to push that & are more suited for the smaller stacks which are much more portable.
Again I love my 412 but with no side handles its impossible to move alone, really.

dave64o · #5 08-30-2011, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jelwood

The user B-String around here has the 412 and he says that it blows the blouses off women at twenty paces ...

Game, set, and match!

Tunaman · #6 08-30-2011, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by dave64o

Game, set, and match!

While I agree this is true... I play at church & thats not a plus for me

**Chef** · #7 08-30-2011, 01:03 PM

I have the 2x112 stack.
It'll take everything the MB-Fusion can dish out.
It plays very well with the Walkabout.

The M9 can over-power that stack pretty readily.

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Originally Posted by Tunaman

Actually a 212 212 stack will be LESS than a 412.
Amazon has GK NEO 212s for $430 today

I have a GK Neo 412 its awesome, its a bear to move so it stays home. I have mine up for sale as I'm getting a GK NEO 115 115 III stack. As for the tone its the balls, handles the 5 string with ease, really its plain ridiculous. Get one used & save a bundle if thats an issue.

If I were starting from scratch I'd do 115 115 or 112 112 vs 212 212. Ask Scott on the GK owners appreciation thread. Thats a hell of a lot of cab. Most amps won't be able to push that & are more suited for the smaller stacks which are much more portable.
Again I love my 412 but with no side handles its impossible to move alone, really.

Tunaman · #8 08-30-2011, 01:52 PM

See... Chef is wise. If starting from new I'd grab a 115 115 or 112 112 stack vs 212 212, thats just plain crazy (Although I personally have a 310 310 stack at 1500w). That never gets used.
You just have to ask yourself if you separate the cabs if the 1 will be enough for a practice or a gig

**Chef** · #9 08-30-2011, 01:56 PM

One 112 does surprisingly well. More than I'd have thought.

I'd love to try the 115's!

Tunaman · #10 08-30-2011, 02:18 PM

Sometimes I feel like I should have went 112 but I've been in too many rock bands that practice at 11.

It would be a great comparison... how many miles to boston

scottfeldstein · #11 08-30-2011, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Tunaman

Sometimes I feel like I should have went 112 but I've been in too many rock bands that practice at 11.

Word. I want my "mini" rig of just one of the two cabs to still be usable next to a rock drummer and guitarist. Two cabs for gigs and other circumstances where I need to speak with the mighty voice of god. A 112 could never do that for me, I don't think. Even a 2x10 can be a stretch sometimes. But the 2x12 seems to actually be the minimum cabinetry required to reach minimum rock out levels. Your mileage definitely may vary. See a doctor. Past returns are not an guarantee of future performance, etc.

Tunaman · #12 08-30-2011, 02:47 PM

Oh Scott, you saw that Amazon has GK NEO 212s for $430 right? HE HE !

scottfeldstein · #13 08-30-2011, 02:51 PM

I know. I'm sad about it. Sudden circumstances have made me essentially broke for the next 60 days or so. No chance of me taking advantage of it in the near future... Looks like my second cab is going to be a Christmas present or something!

JHAz · #14 08-30-2011, 03:02 PM

so I had to go look at the Amazon sale. Kinda a hit or miss proposition. 410 MBE also at a nice price for those interested.

but I was surprised to see the powered MB cabs (like 212MBP) listed and appraently available for purchase. Did I miss the announcement?

SteveHeissner · #15 08-30-2011, 06:43 PM

Scott said it best: "the 2x12 seems to actually be the minimum cabinetry required to reach minimum rock out levels." I own two of the GK 212 NEO cabs and rarely use them both together. Don't get me wrong, they totally kick a$$ and look cool on a big stage. But one of the 212's alone is plenty for any stage I've ever played from the honkey tonk bar to the State theater. In retrospect, do I regret it? No, but it really is double what I need. GAS, my friend!

Tunaman · #16 08-30-2011, 06:50 PM

Steve: Id have to say the GK 115 can surely handle its own for "minimum rock out levels" although I haven't pushed it, I'll report back with what I can get out of it before I get a little worried.

Tunaman · #17 08-31-2011, 06:22 AM

Tried to max out the 115 NEO this morning, my ears gave in before the cab for sure. I can safely say that this cab can take "moderate rock out levels"...
I'd say you need more if you are at ear plug level but not before.

scottfeldstein · #18 08-31-2011, 06:50 AM

You're obviously using metric rock-out units instead of imperial

**Horny Toad** · #19 08-31-2011, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Tunaman

Tried to max out the 115 NEO this morning, my ears gave in before the cab for sure. I can safely say that this cab can take "moderate rock out levels"...
I'd say you need more if you are at ear plug level but not before.

I have a NEO 115-III (x2) stack. I'm not sure I could get away with just one with a loud drummer and a couple of guitars. Maybe with PA support, but I play mainly in small bars and there's never a PA. Maybe I'll try running just the bottom one at a rehearsal to see if it can handle it.

They're impressive boxes. Very sturdy, nicely braced, good tone, and refreshingly light.

scottfeldstein · #20 08-31-2011, 08:01 AM

I could easily have gone that route as well. I would have saved myself money, space and weight. And I doubt I'd find myself in a lot of situations where two 15s can't cut it. But I worry about using just one in a rock band. Reminds me too much of when I was 14 years old, in a basement band, playing a Peavey 115 combo and being completely buried by guitar and drums, always on the edge of wrecking my amp in an effort to keep up.

If I'm going to have a 2 cab rig for modularity, using just 1 cab has to be a viable option. The difference may be marginal, but I feel safer with the 212.