GK stack advice

[Bonerific]

I've got a GK stack, goldline 4x10 on top and a 15 bottom along with a backline 600 with wimpy 300 watts and I got the whole package off craigslist from this awesome guy for $400. Now I know I got a good deal but from one to ten how good was it and what head would you recommend? The 4x10 does 400 at 8ohms and the 15 does 300 also at 8 ohms. Also how good are the cabs compared to others? Thanks

[jelwood]

For 400 dollars I would say you snagged up a good deal. Those are GK entry level cabinets, new they would have run you about 550 dollars together and the head is another 300 new. The head is fantastic. I had that same 410 cab and a GK Goldline head a few years ago, I really really liked it. I would sell the 115 for a hundred bucks and get some cash back. 10 inch drivers and 15 inch drivers don't always mesh well, but sometimes they work out great. Sell the 15 and have a beer.

Edit: play the cabs together and if you like them, keep em. Some people will jeer at the 410/115 combo but in all reality it's all about what YOU like. Also, that 300 watts is not "wimpy." That head does not have current limiters! I would go to GK's website and read the manual for it online, you will be nicely surprised.

[RickenBoogie]

That head is one of the better entry level heads by anyone. Keep that. But, I'd be one who dismisses the 410/15 pairing as not ideal. 2 of the same will blow away the 2 mis-matched cabs, every time. Bottom line, if it's working for you, it's a win.

[PSPookie]

That's a pretty sweet deal. Essentially, you snagged a gigable rig for $400.

Are the cabs Backline or Goldline? The Goldline cabs are decent but heavy but I would look for replacements for Backline cabs as soon as it became feasible.

The BL600 is a pretty solid head. You may want to move up to a 700RB-II/1001RB-II at some point for a little more power but you should be ok for now. Hey, I've gigged a BL600 -> GL410 rig before.

[Bonerific]

Alright thanks but I forgot to add that my two guitarists halfstack cabs are both Marshall 1960A's which are apparently REALLY good that they won't have to replace them. So good, they provide serious low end and I end up gettin mixed in with the rhythm guitar. Which is the reason I was looking for something with MOA-POWA!

[RickenBoogie]

Trade out the 15 for another 410, and you'll bury them.

[Bonerific]

Originally Posted by PSPookie

That's a pretty sweet deal. Essentially, you snagged a gigable rig for $400.

Are the cabs Backline or Goldline? The Goldline cabs are decent but heavy but I would look for replacements for Backline cabs as soon as it became feasible.

The BL600 is a pretty solid head. You may want to move up to a 700RB-II/1001RB-II at some point for a little more power but you should be ok for now. Hey, I've gigged a BL600 -> GL410 rig before.

Yea they are both Goldline cabs

[jelwood]

Also tell your guitarists to back off their low end

[BassmanPaul]

If you keep the 1x15 stack it in the top position. It's your weak link and you need to listen for signs of distress from the cabinet. With the 15 on the bottom those signs will be obliterated by the 4x10.

[Bonerific]

Originally Posted by BassmanPaul

If you keep the 1x15 stack it in the top position. It's your weak link and you need to listen for signs of distress from the cabinet. With the 15 on the bottom those signs will be obliterated by the 4x10.

Ok it's already on bottom but I don't clearly understand what you're saying?

[will33]

The 15 is the one that's the weak link meaning it will get overpowered, distorted, destroyed before the 410 will so stack that one on top so you can hear when it's getting stressed and know when it's time to back off.

Half of the amp power is going to each cab. The 410 has 4 speakers to divide the power between, the 15 only has one speaker to absorb the power, it will run out of gas first so make sure you can hear when that is happening so you don't hurt it.

All in all great score. That would've been a pretty good deal for the head and the 410...the 15 is gravy.

[Bonerific]

Originally Posted by will33

The 15 is the one that's the weak link meaning it will get overpowered, distorted, destroyed before the 410 will so stack that one on top so you can hear when it's getting stressed and know when it's time to back off.

Half of the amp power is going to each cab. The 410 has 4 speakers to divide the power between, the 15 only has one speaker to absorb the power, it will run out of gas first so make sure you can hear when that is happening so you don't hurt it.

All in all great score. That would've been a pretty good deal for the head and the 410...the 15 is gravy.

Yea but the 15 takes 300 watts and if the head only puts out 300 the 15 only receives 150 and can handle it. The heads name is a trick it says backline 600 but only puts out 300w

[S.B.]

I would do what many have suggested and rid of the 15 and get another 410 cab. THAT WOULD ROCK !

[Bass_Pounder]

Originally Posted by Bonerific

Yea but the 15 takes 300 watts and if the head only puts out 300 the 15 only receives 150 and can handle it. The heads name is a trick it says backline 600 but only puts out 300w

The wattage ratings you are quoting are the thermal ratings for the cabinets, NOT the wattage the cabs can handle within the mechanical limits.

The 4X10/1X15 mating is poor because sound is produced by displacement of air. The average 1X15 can only match the output (displacement of air) of the average 2X10 - NOT a 4X10.

Therefore, the 1X15 will be at it's mechanical limits long before your 4X10 will. Placing the 1X15 on top instead the bottom gets it up by your ears and allows you hear when the 1X15 is screaming "enough"

[RickenBoogie]

+1 good advice, you'd do well to heed. Wattage ratings on the cab are all but meaningless. Forget that- just put the 15 on top so you can hear when it screams, or better yet, sell it and get another 410.

[Bonerific]

That's what I was thinking, another 4x10 would look coolio!!